Implicit Differentiation to find dy/dx

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The discussion revolves around using implicit differentiation to find dy/dx for the equation x^2y + xy^2 = 4. Participants express confusion regarding the application of implicit differentiation and the general power rule, as this topic has not been covered in class.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to differentiate both sides of the equation with respect to x and mention the use of the product rule. Questions arise about the proper application of the general power rule and the meaning of differentiating "with respect to x."

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation process, including the use of the product rule and chain rule. However, there is still a lack of clarity among participants about the concepts involved in implicit differentiation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the instructor has not covered implicit differentiation in class, contributing to the confusion. There is also a mention of needing to clarify the distinction between treating y as a function of x versus a separate variable.

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Use implicit differentiation to find dy/dx given x^2y+xy^2=4.

I have no idea how to approach this problem. My instructor assigned this as homework but has not gone over it at all in class. We have gone over explicit differentiation and I understand this well. I have read the section but it is making no sense. I think I need to use the General Power Rule: d/dx(y^n)=ny^(n-1)dy/dx but I don't know how to use it.
 
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akstradtne said:
Use implicit differentiation to find dy/dx given x^2y+xy^2=4.

I have no idea how to approach this problem. My instructor assigned this as homework but has not gone over it at all in class. We have gone over explicit differentiation and I understand this well. I have read the section but it is making no sense. I think I need to use the General Power Rule: d/dx(y^n)=ny^(n-1)dy/dx but I don't know how to use it.

You've got all the ingredients. Differentiate both sides with respect to x and solve for dy/dx. Use the product rule on the way.
 
Can you explain a little more. I don't understand "with respect to x or y." How do I use the general power rule?
 
You said, with reference to implicit differentiation, "I understand this well". Did you mean to say "I don't understand this well"?

Differentiating "with respect to x" means treating y as a function of x, not a separate variable. So "[itex]y^n[/itex], differentiated "with respect to y" would be just [itex]d(y^n)/dy= ny^{n-1}[/itex]. But differentiating "with respect to x" you would use the chain rule: [tex]d(y^n)/dx= ny^{n-1} (dy/dx)[/tex].

If you had, for example, [itex]x^2y+ xy^2= x- y[/itex], differentiating each part with respect to x, (using the "product rule" for the terms on the left), [itex]2xy+ x^2(dy/dx)+ (1)y^2+ 2xy(dy/dx)= 1- dy/dx[/itex]. You can then solve that equation for dy/dx.
 

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