Importance of adding the constant of integration.

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The discussion centers around the importance of adding the constant of integration when performing integration, particularly in the context of double integration and differential equations. Participants explore the implications of omitting the constant and the necessity of including it in solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that the constant of integration is necessary because the derivative of a function plus a constant still equals the original function's derivative, thus requiring the constant to be included in the solution.
  • One participant presents an example of double integration, showing the form of the function after integration and emphasizing the need for the integration constant.
  • Another participant reiterates that each integration step requires its own constant, highlighting the importance of this in the context of solving differential equations.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the timing of when to add the constant, with differing views on whether it should be done immediately or at the end of the integration process.
  • A later reply notes that the example discussed is a linear second-order non-homogeneous differential equation, which necessitates two undetermined coefficients.

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Participants generally agree on the necessity of including a constant of integration for each integration performed. However, there is some disagreement regarding the timing of when to add the constant and the implications of this in various contexts.

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Some participants mention specific examples and mathematical steps that may depend on particular assumptions or definitions, but these remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Hello experts!
I have a question below.

Why is it important to add the constant of integration immediately when the integration is performed?

Thanks in advance.
 
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If you're wondering why there is a constant of integration, it is because when you have a function f(x) such that F(x) = f'(x), then the derivative of g(x) = f(x) + C for any constant also equals F(x) (i.e., g'(x) = f'(x)), so when you integrate F(x), you need to capture that constant in the solution.

Now, if you are asking why it has to be done immediately I'm not sure what you're asking since adding the constant is done as the last step.
 
To the OP: Assume you must do a double integration. For example:

\frac{d^2 f(x)}{d x^2} = x^3 + 5

What is then f(x) equal to ?
 
dextercioby said:
To the OP: Assume you must do a double integration. For example:

\frac{d^2 f(x)}{d x^2} = x^3 + 5

What is then f(x) equal to ?

f(x)=\frac{x^{5}}{5} + \frac{5x^{2}}{2} + c

where "c" is the integration constant.

Now what?? :s
 
daveb said:
If you're wondering why there is a constant of integration, it is because when you have a function f(x) such that F(x) = f'(x), then the derivative of g(x) = f(x) + C for any constant also equals F(x) (i.e., g'(x) = f'(x)), so when you integrate F(x), you need to capture that constant in the solution.

Now, if you are asking why it has to be done immediately I'm not sure what you're asking since adding the constant is done as the last step.

Ok daveb thank you. I think you have answered my question.
Thank you very much.
 
Thank you dextercioby. You also made me to think the answer of my question.
 
shayaan_musta said:
f(x)=\frac{x^{5}}{5} + \frac{5x^{2}}{2} + c

where "c" is the integration constant.

Now what?? :s

Not quite, this is why the constant of integration is important. The first integration gives

\frac{df}{dx}=\frac{x^4}{4}+5x+c_1

and the second integration gives

f(x)=\frac{x^5}{20}+\frac{5x^2}{2}+c_1x+c_2

Which is why we need one constant of integration for each integral
 
Note that dextercioby's example is a linear second order non-homogenous differential equation which means that the set of all solutions is a two dimensional "linear manifold". That is why you need two undetermined coefficients.
 
cpt_carrot said:
Not quite, this is why the constant of integration is important. The first integration gives

\frac{df}{dx}=\frac{x^4}{4}+5x+c_1

and the second integration gives

f(x)=\frac{x^5}{20}+\frac{5x^2}{2}+c_1x+c_2

Which is why we need one constant of integration for each integral

Ok cpt_carrot I got you. Thanks man.
Now I have understood that for each integration a constant is important, as Hallsofivy said.

So help guys on Physics Forums
 

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