Impossible trick question double integral

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The problem involves evaluating a double integral of the function sin(x-y)*e^(x-y)^2 over a disk of radius 2 centered at (1, 1). The original poster expresses frustration after attempting various methods, including polar coordinates, without success.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to convert the integral into polar coordinates but finds the resulting expression complicated. They speculate that the integral might relate to the area of the disk. Other participants question the integrand's formulation and the correctness of the problem statement.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the integral may not have a closed form solution, while others hint at a potential symmetry in the problem that could lead to a simpler understanding. The original poster acknowledges a realization about the symmetry of the integrand, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to the specific geometry of the disk and the implications of the center being at (1, 1), as well as the nature of the integrand in relation to the line y=x.

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Homework Statement



Evaluate the double integral sin(x-y)*e(x-y)^2-0y) 2--- dA where D is a disk of radius 2 whose center is (1; 1)

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gee this problem stumped me. I've been working on it for over 3hrs. I've tried changing into polar form and integrating that. That just takes me to an even messier integral. My professor says their is a trick, but I can't find it. I have a hunch somehow the integral will come down to finding the area of the disk, but I'm not sure how to get to that point.

Just to prove I've tried something: sin(r(cos(theta)-sin(theta)))*e^(r^2(cos(theta)-sin(theta)))*r

that is what my integrand would be if I change it to polar

Please help me. I am so frustrated.
 
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Tex, I'm not sure what you're integrand is. (e times (x-y)?( e^(x-y))^2)?
 
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0153/mathproblem3

that is the original integrand. I basically just substituted x=rcos(theta) and y=rsin(theta) and multiplied by r to convert to polar. But I don't know what to do after that
 
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That isn't integrable over this domain in closed form, because integral (sin u)(e^[u^2]) has no closed form integral, at least not that I know of.

Are you sure you have the statement entirely correct?
 
the statement is correct. my professor says its a trick question that can not be solved by straight integrating. Just to reiterate it is over the domain of a disk of radius 2 and center (1,1).

I reached the conclusion that its not integrable about 1.5 hrs ago, but I can't find this trick he's talking about.
 
The center is (1,1). So it's centered at x=y. Think about what that means.

btw, the integral is zero. You tell me why :)
 
holy sh*t. lol wow that was eye opening. so above y=x within the circle y is greater than x. Below y=x x is greater than y. This means that the integral of the top half is the opposite of the integral of the bottom half and thus they sum to 0. Wow.

That was cool.
 
Hurray symmetry :)
 
by the way. thank you so much. your a life saver
 
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No problem.
 

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