In Fluid Mechanics what is the difference between yc and hc?

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The discussion clarifies the difference between the height to the centroid (hc) and the y-coordinate of the centroid (yc) in fluid mechanics, particularly in the context of hydrostatic force calculations. While both measurements can appear similar, their values depend on the orientation of the axes defined by the user. If the y-axis is oriented downward normal to the liquid surface, hc and yc are equivalent; however, if the y-axis is angled for convenience, they differ and are related through the angle θ. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for accurately solving submerged surface problems.

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When solving for the hydrostatic force on a surface we use the height to the centroid(hc), then when using the point of application we use the y coordinate of the centroid(yc), however shouldn't they be the same since they both start from the top surface and reach down to the object surface on the same axis?
 
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It depends on how you've defined your axes. If your y-axis is taken to be downward normal to the liquid surface, then they are the same. If your y-axis is angled to make the math more convenient then ##y## and ##h## will be different (but related through ##\theta##).
 
Beembo said:
When solving for the hydrostatic force on a surface we use the height to the centroid(hc), then when using the point of application we use the y coordinate of the centroid(yc), however shouldn't they be the same since they both start from the top surface and reach down to the object surface on the same axis?
Hi Beembo,
A problem well described is half the battle.

While I would tend to think that you are asking about the location of the resultant force on a submerged surface, that does not come quite clear in your post.
Some questions come to mind about the axis orientation, surface shape, surface orientation for example.
 
256bits said:
Hi Beembo,
A problem well described is half the battle.

While I would tend to think that you are asking about the location of the resultant force on a submerged surface, that does not come quite clear in your post.
Some questions come to mind about the axis orientation, surface shape, surface orientation for example.

That was reasonably clear to me, though it involved a few assumptions, such as that the surface is planar.
 
boneh3ad said:
That was reasonably clear to me, though it involved a few assumptions, such as that the surface is planar.
Right. The basic submerged plate problem.
Two different centroids are involved to find the location and magnitude of the resultant.
He, himself, thinking about how to describe a problem clearly could give the OP a better insight as to why that is so.
 
256bits said:
Right. The basic submerged plate problem.
Two different centroids are involved to find the location and magnitude of the resultant.
He, himself, thinking about how to describe a problem clearly could give the OP a better insight as to why that is so.

It sounds like this is just a classic case of someone who learned a regurgitated equation without learning what it actually means or where it comes from, so you may be onto something.
 

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