Ind the orthogonal trajectories of the family of curves

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The problem involves finding the orthogonal trajectories of the family of curves defined by the equation y = x/(1+kx). The original poster expresses confusion and seeks assistance, particularly in understanding the implications of the parameter k and how to graph the curves.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the given equation and the implications of the parameter k. There are attempts to clarify the correct form of the derivative and how to integrate it. Some participants question the necessity of k in the final answer and explore different substitutions and interpretations of the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing insights and suggestions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration process and the relationship between the original curves and their orthogonal trajectories. There is a recognition of confusion among participants, but also encouragement and affirmation of correct approaches.

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There is mention of an impending exam, which may be contributing to the stress and urgency in the discussion. Participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem while dealing with the pressure of upcoming assessments.

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Find the orthogonal trajectories of the family of curves. Use a graphing device to draw several members of each family on a common screen.
y = x/(1+kx)

2. The attempt at a solution

I have been trying this problem for hours, and I get a different answer every time. I have a big exam over this material tomorrow, and I just discovered that someone in this forum may be able to help me. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!

The following is my most recent attempt. This was after I got help from a friend. I know that it must be wrong, but it's as far as I have gotten.

y = x/(1+kx)
y' = dy/dx = x/[(x+kx)^2]
slope of tangent line = x/[(x+kx)^2]
slope of orthogonal line = -(1+kx)^2
dy = [-(1+kx)^2]dx

After that, I am completely stuck. I do not think I am anywhere close to the answer. Also, I have no idea how to go about graphing it. Please help!
 
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I'm ignoring what I think are typos, like the correct y' is 1/(1+kx)^2. Your final line looks good though. Now just integrate both sides. Use a substitution u=1+kx. Or just square it out if you have to.
 
Do you really think I am on the right track? I thought I was supposed to take K out early on, but I do not know when, or what to replace it with. I just think that my final answer is not supposed to have K in it.
 
Bel_Oubli said:
Do you really think I am on the right track? I thought I was supposed to take K out early on, but I do not know when, or what to replace it with. I just think that my final answer is not supposed to have K in it.

Yes, I think you are on the right track. And I don't see why you think the final answer shouldn't have a k in it.
 
My final answer is y=-[(1+KX)^3]/3K + C. I think that should be correct. To graph it, will I just graph the original equation y = x/(1+kx) and then add y=-[(1+KX)^3]/3K + C for different values of K and C?

In my math book, it says that K is an arbitrary constant and that you have to do it for all values of K, so you find K as follows:
y = x/(1+kx)
1+kx = x/y
k=(x-1)/y

I just do not know when I would add it into the problem. Perhaps this is correct:
y = x/(1+kx)
y' = dy/dx = x/[(x+kx)^2]
And replacing k with (x-1)/y...
slope of tangent line = x/[(x+[(x-1)/y]x)^2] = (xy^2)/(x^4)

Does that look right? I'm so confused...
 
For someone who has done all the right stuff, you are mighty confused. Let f(x)=x/(1+kx) and g(x)=c+(1+kx)^3/(-3k). You have shown that f'(x)=-1/g'(x). So if you put in any values of c and k, then if f(x) and g(x) intersect, they will intersect at a right angle. They are orthogonal.
 
LOL, I think I'm just getting stressed out because it's almost the end of the semester, and I want to be prepared for Calculus III next semester. Thank you so much for helping me; I will just go to bed and hope I pass the exam tomorrow.

Thanks again!
(:
 
Good strategy, you probably will if you get some sleep. You are doing a lot of stuff right.
 
Dick, the differential equation defining the family y= x/(1+kx) should NOT have a "k" in it. The k determines which member of the family you have. Once you have determined y'= f(x,y), write y'= -1/f(x,y) and integrate that to find the orthogonal trajectories. You will get a constant of integration in that, of course.

I would be inclined to do it this way: write y= x/(1+kx) as y(1+ kx)= x. That allows you to do two things. First, differentiating both sides, y'(1+ kx)+ ky= 1. Also y+ kxy= x so kxy= x- y and you have both kx= (x-y)/y and ky= (x-y)/x. y'(1+ (x-y)/y)+ (x-y)/x= 1.
1+ (x-y)/y= x/y and 1- (x-y)/x= y/x. The equation of the original family is (x/y)y'= (y/x) or y'= y2/x2.
 
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Thanks, Halls. Or just write (1+kx)=x/y and put that into the derivative the OP already has y'=1/(1+kx)=y^2/x^2. I had a feeling something was going awry...
 
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Wow, my answer was really wrong. I guess it does not matter since my exam has already passed, but thanks for the help, guys.
 

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