Indicating Vector Inclusion in Span of Matrix Columns

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The discussion revolves around the concept of vector inclusion in the span of matrix columns, specifically how to denote that a vector b is part of the span of the columns of a matrix C.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the notation \(\mathbf{b} \in \mathrm{Span}\{\mathbf{c}_1, \mathbf{c}_2, \ldots, \mathbf{c}_n\}\) and question its appropriateness in the context of span as a set. There are discussions about the nature of the span being an infinite set of linear combinations and the implications of using the empty set in this context.

Discussion Status

There is a general agreement on the use of the \(\in\) symbol to indicate inclusion in the span, with some participants affirming this understanding. The conversation has also led to inquiries about the span of the empty set, indicating an exploration of definitions and properties related to spans.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the notation and definitions, particularly regarding the span of an empty set and the implications of infinite sets in this context.

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Homework Statement


How to indicate that a vector b is in the span of the columns of a matrix C?

Homework Equations


I could type the definition of Span here, but Wikipedia has it too and it is not necessary or useful now.

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\mathbf{b} \in \mathrm{Span}\{\mathbf{c}_1, \mathbf{c}_2, \ldots, \mathbf{c}_n\}[/tex]

I've never seen the [itex]\in[/itex] symbol in this context and wanted to be sure it is OK. As the concept of span seems to be defined formally in such a way that it ends up being a set, I think this operator is the right one.
 
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mafagafo said:

Homework Statement


How to indicate that a vector b is in the span of the columns of a matrix C?

Homework Equations


I could type the definition of Span here, but Wikipedia has it too and it is not necessary or useful now.

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\mathbf{b} \in \mathrm{Span}\{\mathbf{c}_1, \mathbf{c}_2, \ldots, \mathbf{c}_n\}[/tex]

I've never seen the [itex]\in[/itex] symbol in this context and wanted to be sure it is OK. As the concept of span seems to be defined formally in such a way that it ends up being a set, I think this operator is the right one.
The above represents a set of vectors, and ##\in## simply means that b belongs to that set.
 
This is a yes, right? (slow guy)
 
mafagafo said:
This is a yes, right? (slow guy)
Yes.

BTW, the span of a set of vectors is a set, albeit an infinite set - the set of all linear combinations of the vectors listed in the set.
 
Mark44 said:
Yes.

BTW, the span of a set of vectors is a set, albeit an infinite set - the set of all linear combinations of the vectors listed in the set.
What about [tex]\mathrm{Span}\{\varnothing\}[/tex]?
 
mafagafo said:
What about [tex]\mathrm{Span}\{\varnothing\}[/tex]?
I've never seen this, but I would guess that it's the empty set.
 
Mark44 should have said "the span of any non-empty set of vectors is infinite".
 

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