Induced current and voltage, magnetism

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving electromagnetic induction, specifically focusing on a rotating square loop of wire in a magnetic field. The loop's properties, such as resistivity and dimensions, are provided, and participants are tasked with determining the induced voltage and current.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between angular frequency, induced voltage, and magnetic flux. There is an attempt to apply Faraday's law of induction and clarify the role of resistivity in the context of the problem. Questions arise regarding the correct equations to use and the interpretation of changing magnetic flux.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the equations and concepts involved. Some have suggested using the area of the loop and its orientation relative to the magnetic field to determine the induced voltage. There is an ongoing exploration of how to relate frequency to time and the implications of the loop's rotation on magnetic flux.

Contextual Notes

Participants note confusion regarding the changing magnetic flux and its implications for calculating induced voltage. There is a recognition that the area of the loop remains constant, but the component of the area perpendicular to the magnetic field changes as the loop rotates.

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Homework Statement



a single square loop of high resistivity wire ( rho = 10^-6 ohm-meters) is placed in a constant magnetic field B of 0.3 Teslas and oriented so that the axis of rotation of the loop is perpendicular to B and in the plane of the loop. the loop rotates with an angular frequency of 300/second.

a) if the square has a side length of 3 cm, what is the peak value of the voltage induced around the loop during the rotation?

b) if the wire has a cross-sectional area of 10^-6 m^2, what is the value of the current induced in the loop?

Homework Equations



angular frequency, omega = 2pi(f) where f is frequency

peak voltage, V_peak(sin(omega*t)) = L(dI/dt) where t is time, dt is change in time, dI is change in current

voltage V = V_peak(omega*t + phi_v) where phi_v is phase angle = 90 deg

period T = 2pi(m)/qB where m is mass, q is charge, B is magnetic field

current I = I_peak(sin(omega*t + phi_i) where omega is angular freq., phi_i is phase angle = 90deg

voltage induced, V = (A)dB/dt where dB is change in magnetic field, dt is change in time, A is area (3*3 = 9cm^2 )=

The Attempt at a Solution



i am sure i am missing equations, which equation involves magnetic field and the other givens? how does the resistivity come into play?

angular freq, omega = 2pi(f)
300 = 2pi(f)
frequency, f = 300/2pi = 47.74 rot/sec

using "V_peak(sin(omega*t)) = L(dI/dt)" it seems i need time, if i find time, i will be able to determine V_peak for part a, as omega is given, is dI assumed constant?

i am stuck on a, so haven't attempted part b, help for either part appreciated.
 
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Find the component of the area normal to the magnetic field as a function of time.
 
since for part a, the length of the square is given to be 3cm, than the area would be 9cm^2, or 0.09m^2.

if i use " V = (A)dB/dt" ---> V = 0.09(0.3)/dt

is this what you mean?

how do i get time, is it related to the frequency i found in the original post?
 
scholio said:
since for part a, the length of the square is given to be 3cm, than the area would be 9cm^2, or 0.09m^2.

if i use " V = (A)dB/dt" ---> V = 0.09(0.3)/dt

is this what you mean?

how do i get time, is it related to the frequency i found in the original post?

If I read your explanation correctly, isn't the square loop rotating so that the flux through the loop is changing?
 
oh so magnetic flux = [integral(BdA)] where B is magnetic field, dA is change in area

in part a, the area does not change, correct? so dA = 0, thus magnetic flux is zero, correct?

you mention that the flux is changing, I'm confused, could you explain further? if flux is changing, i need to use faraday's law of induction then: emf, epsilon = -d(magnetic flux)/dt ---> where do i get epsilon, is this where i get the time portion for " V = (A)dB/dt" ---> V = 0.09(0.3)/dt??
 
Is http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3447/picturegs9.jpg a proper setup for this problem, or am I reading your explanation wrong?

Assuming it is, as the wire rotates in that direction, the "face", if you will, of the loop of wire, goes from being completely perpendicular to the magnetic field to completely parallel to the magnetic field, so no, the change magnetic flux is not zero, it is some value that varies sinusoidally with the rotation of the loop

Now, your magnetic field is constant, but the component of this loop's area that is perpendicular to the magnetic field at any given time is not. You use this "changing" area to get the change in flux which will, in turn, get you the induced voltage.
 
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