Induced Voltage of a Magnetic Field passing through a loop

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The problem involves calculating the induced voltage in a circular loop due to a time-varying magnetic field. The magnetic field is described by a quadratic function of time, and the loop's orientation relative to the magnetic field is specified by an angle. Participants are tasked with determining both the induced voltage at a specific time and the direction of the induced current.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between magnetic flux and induced voltage, considering the constants involved in the area and angle. There are attempts to derive the induced voltage using the rate of change of the magnetic field and questions about the correct angle to use in calculations. Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and seek confirmation of their reasoning.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the calculations involved in determining the induced voltage, with some participants providing guidance on treating certain variables as constants. Multiple interpretations of the angle relative to the loop's plane are being discussed, and participants are reflecting on their understanding of the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential errors in calculations and the need to clarify the angle used in the magnetic flux formula. There is also mention of the relationship between the direction of the induced current and the change in magnetic flux, with some uncertainty remaining about the underlying concepts.

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Homework Statement



A magnetic field passes through a circular loop of radius 14 cm and makes an angle of 65° with respect to the plane of the loop. The magnitude of the field is given by the equation:

B = (1.25t2 - .500t + 4.00)T.

a) Determine the voltage induced in the loop when t = 2.00 s.
b) What is the direction of the current induced in the loop?

Homework Equations


ξ = -\frac{d∅}{dt} where ξ is the induced voltage and ∅ is the magnetic flux.

Acircle = πr2

The Attempt at a Solution



My thinking is that area of the circle is not changing with respect to time, however, the magnetic flux is as it is a function of time. I have attempted various avenues (including simply plugging and chugging into BAcosΘ) but have not figured out how to solve this.

I wanted to use the rate of change relationship and attempted to derive an equation that I could use to solve this, however, I am stuck.

I possibly made an error in my derivative but I also need confidence whether I am on the right track or not.

-\frac{d∅}{dt} = -\frac{d}{dt}[BA cosΘ]

Using product rule, I get:

ξ = -[(\frac{dB}{dt}A cosΘ) + B(\frac{dA}{dt}cosΘ-AsinΘ)]

\frac{dB}{dt} = (2.5t +.500)T
\frac{dA}{dt} = 2πr

Plugging in:

-[(2.5t+.500(π(.14)2cos 65°) + (1.25t2 +.500t +4.00) (2π(.14) cos 65° - π(.14)2 sin 65°)] when t = 2.00 s

This looks incorrect and since the area is not changing I am not sure that I should be taking the derivative of the area.

The answer is supposedly 251 mV but I cannot get close to this and I am honestly quite stuck at this point.

I am either over-complicating this, making some careless mistakes or simply not understanding the nature of the problem.

Any help would be appreciated! Thank you for your time and assistance!
 
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As you noted, the area ##A## and the angle ##\Theta## are constants. So, you can treat ##A\cos \Theta## as a constant.

Did you get a sign wrong when calculating ##dB/dt##?
 
Also note that the angle given is the angle measured relative to the plane of the loop.
 
So it is correct to factor those out as constants and take the derivative of the magnetic field B? I think I made a typo when entering in latex but I will check my paper to see if I made the same error when I did it by hand. I will try this and see what I get. Thank you very much for such a quick reply!
 
Also note that the angle given is the angle measured relative to the plane of the loop.
Are you saying I need to find the angle measured relative to the plane of the loop as in 90-65 = 25?
 
TSny said:
As you noted, the area ##A## and the angle ##\Theta## are constants. So, you can treat ##A\cos \Theta## as a constant.

Did you get a sign wrong when calculating ##dB/dt##?

I see what you mean. Yes I typed it incorrectly. \frac{dB}{dt} = (2.5t - .500) I had typed a + sign.
 
abstrakt! said:
Are you saying I need to find the angle measured relative to the plane of the loop as in 90-65 = 25?

The angle measured relative to the plane is given to be 65o. You should think about whether or not you should use 65o for ##\Theta## in your flux formula.
 
TSny said:
The angle measured relative to the plane is given to be 65o. You should think about whether or not you should use 65o for ##\Theta## in your flux formula.
Thank you! I will reference my notes and textbook and ponder about this a bit. I considered whether that was the appropriate angle to use but I suppose I haven't thought about it enough. I will report back after I redo this problem with the new information you have provided. Thank so much!
 
OK. See if it works out.
 
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I am pretty sure I did this correctly (I got the correct answer at least). I just want to ensure that my process was correct.

I took the derivative of the magnetic field: dB/dt = (2.5t-.500)T when t = 2.00 and kept the area and the cosine of the angle constant since their rate of change is 0. Then, I measured the angle off of the area vector that is normal to the surface based on the angle between the magnetic field vector and the plane in which the circular loop lies (90-65 = 25).

The final equation is: ξ = (2.5*2-.500)(π(.14)2cos 25°) = .251 or 251 mV

Is this correct?

Thank you for your suggestions, they gave me a better perspective of the problem (assuming I am thinking about this correctly).

b) What is the direction of the current induced in the loop?

Since the inward flux is decreasing, the induced flux will be into the page so the induced current will move clockwise in order to "oppose" the induced flux? I am still fuzzy on this concept.
 
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Your work for part (a) looks correct.

For part (b) I don't have access to the figure. I'm guessing that the loop is in the plane of the page and the B field is pointing into the page at 25o to the normal of the loop. Is that right?

Why do you say the flux is decreasing?
 

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