Induction Questions: Proving Statements and Solving Problems

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The discussion revolves around questions related to mathematical induction, specifically focusing on proving statements and solving problems involving sequences and inequalities. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the methods of induction taught, particularly strong induction and well-ordering, while feeling more comfortable with simple induction.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply mathematical induction to various problems but expresses uncertainty about how to start and proceed with the proofs. They detail their attempts for specific questions, including checking base cases and formulating inductive steps.

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Some participants suggest that focusing on one question at a time might be more effective for clarity and understanding. The original poster has narrowed down their inquiries to two specific questions and is seeking hints or guidance on how to approach them without requiring complete solutions.

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I have quite a few questions and so i just made it an image. Also attached.
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1002/inductionforlife.jpg"
Only need help with questions 2 and 5 now

Oh and so far my lecturer has taught well-ordering, strong induction and simple induction. But I could only follow simple induction... the other two I'm quite clueless about >< Though tell me which method is best for each question.

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3. The Attempt at a Solution s
Question 2
I have no clue to how to start it..
All i have done is
24 = 7 + 7 + 5 + 5
25 = 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5
26 = 7 + 7 + 7 + 5
27 = 7 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5
28 = 7 + 7 + 7 + 7
29 = 7 + 7 + 5 + 5 + 5
no idea what to do now

[STRIKE]Question 3
I'm not sure if my method is correct but I've proved that when x = 0 and n = 1, x = 1 n = 2 are true. But I get stuck whilst proving n = k + 1

Let Sn be (1 + x)n >= 1 + nx
For n = 1 and x = 0, S1 =
LHS = (1+0)1 = 1
RHS = 1 + (1)(0) = 1
Therfore LHS >= RHS Hence n = 1 is true.

Assume n = k is true
Sk --> (1 + x)k >= 1 + kx

For n = k + 1, Sk+1 =

I know that I need to get to
(1 + x)k+1 >= 1 + (k+1)x

(1 + x)k >= 1 + kx
(1 + x)k(1 + x)1 >= (1 + kx)(1 + x)1 (multiplied both sides by (x + 1)
(1 + x)k+1 >= 1 + x + kx + kx2

I can see that on the RHS there is 1 + x + kx I'm not sure what to do with it... hints/help?

Question 4 (Just needs checking)

Let Sn be ƒ1 + ƒ2 + ... + ƒn = ƒn+2 -1
For n = 1, S1
LHS = ƒ1 = 1
RHS = ƒ1+2 - 1 = 2 - 1 = 1
LHS = RHS
Therefore n = 1 is true

Assume true for n = k
Sk --> ƒ1 + ƒ2 + ... + ƒk = ƒk+2 -1

For n = k + 1, Sk+1 =
RHS = ƒk+3 - 1
LHS = ƒ1 + ƒ2 + ... + ƒk + ƒk+1
= ƒk+2 -1 + ƒk+1
= ƒk+2 + ƒk+1 - 1
= ƒk+3 - 1 (should I write any reason here? if yes..what should i write?)
= RHS
Hence n = k + 1 is true
By mathematical induction Sn is true for all positive integers n.
[/STRIKE]
Question 5
Show that n/t - 1/(q+1) is positive and numerator is less than n
where t = nq + r with 0 < r < n

(get common denominator then expand and simplify)
n/t - 1/(q+1)
= n(q + 1)/[t(q+1)] - t/[t(q+1)]
= [n(q+1) - t] / [t(q+1)]
= [nq - t + n] / [t(q+1)]

t = nq + r
nq - t = -r

hence n/t - 1/(q+1)
= [n-r] / [t(q+1)]

from 0 < r < n
n > r therefore n - r > 0 (proved that numerator is positive)
and since r > 0 then n - r < n (proved that numerator is < n)

I'm not sure where to go from here

Please someone help me however you can..
Thank you in advance!
 

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It's better to post one question at a time rather than post a whole slew of them.
 
Mark44 said:
It's better to post one question at a time rather than post a whole slew of them.

Its only two questions now ><
and they don't have to answer them all...just whichever ones they can ><
 
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