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The discussion revolves around solving the inequality \(2x + \frac{1}{x} < 3\) and the associated challenges with LaTeX formatting. Participants explore the steps to manipulate the inequality and express their uncertainties regarding the solution process, particularly in handling the signs of variables.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the manipulation of the inequality and the implications of multiplying by \(x\), noting that \(x\) could be positive or negative.
  • Another participant suggests multiplying both sides by \(x^2\) to avoid issues with sign, leading to the cubic inequality \((2x-1)(x-1)(x) < 0\).
  • There is a discussion about the roots of the cubic and the intervals where the expression is negative, with a suggestion to sketch the cubic for better understanding.
  • One participant mistakenly concludes that the solution is \(x \leq -1\) and expresses uncertainty about their reasoning.
  • Another participant corrects the interpretation of the intervals, clarifying that it should read \( \frac{1}{2} < x < 1\) instead of \(1/2 > x < 1\).
  • There is mention of testing signs on intervals as a common method for solving such inequalities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the final solution, with some expressing confusion and others providing corrections. The discussion reflects multiple interpretations of the inequality and its solution process.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of inequalities and the potential for errors in their reasoning. The discussion includes various assumptions about the behavior of the inequality across different intervals.

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stupid error in the "tex" thing, see first post.
 
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damn latex keeps screwing up see next post, soz
 
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just starting to learn some stuff on inequalities and need some help. Not sure where to put this topic, so move it if necessary. thnx

Heres one problem I think I've solved but need clarification from you it's right or where I've gone wrong. I also may have missed an obvious solution but I am going off a very short and "concise" introduction to inequalities so I havn't really got a full understanding of how to solve a given problem. Thnx

Find the set of real numbers [tex]x \neq 0[/tex] such that [tex]2x + 1/x < 3[/tex]:

I then manipulated 2x + 1/x < 3 to get to

[tex]\frac{(2x-1)(x-1)}{x} < 0[/tex]

Im pretty sure up till there is right, but it's the next stage that I think my working in dubious. I'm pretty sure I can't times both sides by x because it could be negative, could be positive.

I know [tex]\frac{(2x-1)(x-1)}{x}[/tex] is negative. Because its less than O. This means that either 2x-1, x-1, or x is negative, or all 3. I kinda think all that makes sense.

(this is where is gets real dubious lol).

So, the following are the options.

2x-1>0, x-1<0, x>0
or
2x-1>0, x-1>0, x<0
or
2x-1<0, x-1<0, x<0
or
2x-1<0, x-1>0, x>0

which cancels too

x>1/2, x<1, x>0
or
x>1/2, x>1, x<0
or
x<1/2, x<1, x<0
or
x<1/2, x>1, x>0

the 2nd and 4th possiblilities are impossible so that leaves

1/2>x<1
or
x<0

the first doesn't work either because it says find real numbers and subbing in "1" give 3<3, which is false.

so then i conclude the answer has to be [tex]x \leq -1[/tex]


is this right? i know i probably did it wrong, but need to know where I went wrong, thnx.
 
should be fine now, fixed the latex.
 
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Find the set of real numbers [tex]x \neq 0[/tex] such that [tex]2x + 1/x < 3[/tex]:

I then manipulated 2x + 1/x < 3 to get to

[tex]\frac{(2x-1)(x-1)}{x} < 0[/tex]

Im pretty sure up till there is right, but it's the next stage that I think my working in dubious. I'm pretty sure I can't times both sides by x because it could be negative, could be positive.

The easiest thing to do is multiply both sides by x^2, which you know will be non-negative. This gets you to,

[tex](2x-1)(x-1)(x) < 0[/tex]

This a cubic with three real roots at x=0, x=1/2 and x=1. Make a quick sketch of it if you like, it's easy to see that it is negative for x < 0 and for 1/2 < x < 1.

BTW: You don't really need to sketch it, that was just a suggestion in case you where not already familar with what a cubic looks like. If you are familar with a cubic you'll know that a positive cubic (x^3 term positive) will go from -ive to +ive through the first zero, from +ive to -ive through the second zero and so on. So it's not hard to figure out where it is negative.
 
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o rite i see

was my answer correct?
 
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...the 2nd and 4th possiblilities are impossible so that leaves

1/2>x<1
or
x<0

No, it's not 1/2 > x < 1, in fact, it should read:

1/2 < x < 1

the first doesn't work either because it says find real numbers and subbing in "1" give 3<3, which is false.

so then i conclude the answer has to be [tex]x \leq -1[/tex]is this right? i know i probably did it wrong, but need to know where I went wrong, thnx.

No, you don't substitute "1" in. 1/2 < x < 1, x = 1 does not satisfy the requirement. The solution is 1/2 < x < 1, so if you want to check, well take any x that is greater than 1/2, and less than 1, you can choose .999, but definitely not 1. Can you see why? :)

Btw, how did you get x <= -1? You should note that x is a real number, not an integer.

There's a more common method, are you familiar with drawing tables, and testing the sign on each interval?
 
o crap haha, misread the question lol. stupid me.

yeah thnx for that, yeah i think the 1/2 > x < 1 was a typo.
 

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