Inequality question from Real Analysis

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The discussion revolves around proving an inequality involving real numbers, specifically the expression na^{n-1}(b-a) < b^{n} - a^{n} < nb^{n-1}(b-a) for n in natural numbers, under the condition that 0 < a < b.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the manipulation of the inequality and the use of summation notation to express terms. There is a focus on the validity of the steps taken and the completeness of the inequality, particularly for the case when n=1.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the attempts made, with one expressing concern about the completeness of the inequality. There is an ongoing exploration of the steps involved and the implications of specific values of n.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the inequality for specific cases, particularly for n=1, which raises questions about the validity of the original statement. There is also mention of potential simplifications in notation.

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Homework Statement


let n\inN To prove the following inequality

na^{n-1}(b-a) < b^{n} - a^{n} < nb^{n-1}(b-a)

0<a<b

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The Attempt at a Solution


Knowing that b^n - a^n = (b-a)(b^(n-1) + ab^(n-2) + ... + ba^(n-2) + a^(n-1) we can divide out (b-a) because b-a # 0. so we have

n(a^(n-1)) < (b^(n-1) + ab^(n-2) + ... + ba^(n-2) + a^(n-1) < n(a^(n-1))

and in the middle of the inequality we see that

na^(n-1) < a^(n-1)< ab^(n-2) + ... + ba^(n-2) < a^(n-1) <nb^(n-1)

and in the middle there are a^j (b^(n-1-j)) terms as j --> n-2
So there are (n-1)+1 terms in the middle or n terms. So if a<b this inequality holds...


I think i pulled some random stuff out of thin air, but its a try.. THanks
 
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hi kbrono! :smile:

(have a sigma: ∑ and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

yes, that's exactly the way you're supposed to do it! :smile:

what's worrying you about it? :confused:

(btw, you could shorten it a bit by writing ∑i≤n-1aibn-1-i

then ∑i≤nan-1 < ∑i≤n-1aibn-1-i < ∑i≤n-1bn-1 :wink:)
 
Ok thank you for looking it over!
 
The inequality is not complete. For n=1 you get
b-a < b-a < b -a

Which is not true.
 

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