Inertia - Moments of Inertia of a rigid body (different axes)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of moments of inertia for a rigid body, specifically focusing on how to calculate it for different axes while ignoring certain masses. Participants are exploring the general rules and formulas related to inertia.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the formula for moment of inertia and question how to apply it when certain masses are ignored. There is a consideration of whether to sum distances squared from each mass to the axes and how to handle specific values in calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the application of the moment of inertia formula, while others are questioning their calculations and the assumptions made regarding mass. There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the problem without reaching a definitive consensus.

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Participants note that the problem specifies to ignore the masses of the rods, which influences their calculations. There is uncertainty about how to handle certain values and whether to include negative contributions in the calculations.

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Inertia -- Moments of Inertia of a rigid body (different axes)

Here is the problem http://imgur.com/pL6Bdgw


So I missed class today because I was studying for a genetics test. I don't need the answer or anything but I was wondering what the general rule for inertia that I would use for solving this problem. I looked up some inertia rules but don't really see how they apply. Thanks in advance
 
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frownifdown said:
Here is the problem http://imgur.com/pL6Bdgw


So I missed class today because I was studying for a genetics test. I don't need the answer or anything but I was wondering what the general rule for inertia that I would use for solving this problem. I looked up some inertia rules but don't really see how they apply. Thanks in advance

The general concept is the "moment of inertia". Look up that formula, and the problem should be straightforward.
 
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berkeman said:
The general concept is the "moment of inertia". Look up that formula, and the problem should be straightforward.

Alright so I looked it up and saw the equation for it (I=mr^2 correct?). Now the problem says to ignore the mass so do I just count the distance from each ball to each axis and square and add them? That seems very tedious. Can you get it from just looking at them?
 
frownifdown said:
Alright so I looked it up and saw the equation for it (I=mr^2 correct?).
Right. That's the moment of inertia for a point mass, which is what you need.

Now the problem says to ignore the mass so do I just count the distance from each ball to each axis and square and add them?
Yes. (You are ignoring the mass of the rods, not the balls.)

That seems very tedious. Can you get it from just looking at them?
Get busy! (No shortcuts.)
 
frownifdown said:
Alright so I looked it up and saw the equation for it (I=mr^2 correct?). Now the problem says to ignore the mass so do I just count the distance from each ball to each axis and square and add them? That seems very tedious. Can you get it from just looking at them?

It says to ignore the masses of the interconnecting rods. So yes, you do the sum of the mr^2 number about each axis to get the total I for each axis. Ignore the masses that are on-axis for this problem. It should go pretty fast... :smile:EDIT -- Doc is quicker on the draw than I am, again! :smile:
 
Alright, so I went through and thought I did it right but apparently not. I got G>D>A>F>E>B=C

Edit: I just went back and realized that my value for C was wrong, and it should be 16 instead of 7. I'm unsure on how to add and if there should be negatives though. For instance, would B be 7 or 1? Would I add the 4 on top and subtract 3 from the bottom or would they all contribute 1 to it.

Nevermind, Solved! Thanks everyone
 
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frownifdown said:
Alright, so I went through and thought I did it right but apparently not. I got G>D>A>F>E>B=C

Edit: I just went back and realized that my value for C was wrong, and it should be 16 instead of 7. I'm unsure on how to add and if there should be negatives though. For instance, would B be 7 or 1? Would I add the 4 on top and subtract 3 from the bottom or would they all contribute 1 to it.

There are no subtractions in MOI calculations...
 

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