Inertia tensor for point masses

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The problem involves three equal point masses located in a three-dimensional space, and the task is to find the center of mass and the inertia tensor using symmetry. The context is rooted in the study of rotational dynamics and the properties of inertia tensors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the center of mass and express uncertainty about visualizing the 3D setup to determine the principal axes. There are suggestions to create drawings to aid understanding.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the geometric relationships of the point masses. There is an ongoing exploration of how symmetry can be used to identify the principal axes, but no consensus has been reached on the specific directions of these axes.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note difficulties in visualizing the spatial arrangement of the point masses and how this affects the determination of the principal axes. There is also mention of the need for a drawing to clarify the setup.

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Homework Statement


Three equal point masses, mass M, are located at (a,0,0), (0, a, 2a) and (0, 2a, a). Find the centre of mass for this system. Use symmetry to determine the principle axes of the system and hence find the inertia tensor through the centre of mass. (based on Hand and Finch, Chapter 8 Problem 9).

Homework Equations


$$I_{xx}=\sum_{i} m_i(y_i^2+z_i^2)$$ ,$$I_{xy}=-\sum_{i} m_i x_i y_i$$ and $$\mathbf{R_{CM}}=\frac{\sum_{i} m_i\mathbf{r_i}}{\sum_{i} m_i}$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I got that the centre of mass was (a/3,a,a) but I'm not sure how to find the principle axes using symmetry as I can't really visualise the 3D setup that well.
 
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physicsdude101 said:
I got that the centre of mass was (a/3,a,a) but I'm not sure how to find the principle axes using symmetry as I can't really visualise the 3D setup that well.
Make a drawing!
 
DrClaude said:
Make a drawing!
I don't get it from the drawing I made either. Oops should've said I did one earlier.
 
The three points form a plane, and two of the three points are at equal distances from the center of mass. Both of these allow you to find two of the axes (the second one is a symmetry axis), and the third axis will be perpendicular to both.
 
DrClaude said:
The three points form a plane, and two of the three points are at equal distances from the center of mass. Both of these allow you to find two of the axes (the second one is a symmetry axis), and the third axis will be perpendicular to both.
I think I worked it out: Do the principal axes point in the directions (-2,3,3),(3,1,1),(0,1,-1)?
 

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