Infinite loop with l'hopital's rule?

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The discussion revolves around the application of L'Hôpital's rule in evaluating limits, particularly in the context of the limit as x approaches 0 for the expression involving cotangent and its relation to trigonometric identities.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the use of logarithmic transformations and trigonometric identities to manipulate the limit expression. There are questions about the nature of the problem, including whether it involves powers or trigonometric functions.

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Participants are actively discussing various approaches to the limit problem, with some suggesting specific manipulations and the application of L'Hôpital's rule. There is a recognition of the complexity of the problem, and while some guidance has been offered, there is no explicit consensus on a single method.

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There is an indication that the original poster is seeking to understand the problem without directly solving it, adhering to homework guidelines that discourage providing complete solutions.

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I'm not supposed to get help with the exact problem, but, in general, you what do if this happens?
 
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Are there any powers involved? I think you can take the log of the original function to rewrite the expression into a form where you can use L'Hospitals in a way that works.
 
Would it be infinite loops in regards to trigonometry? Give us an indication of the type of problem it is.
 
The actual problem is lim x-->0+ (cot(x) - 1/x)

Do you think you could come up with a similar problem and help me with it so I can apply that to the original one? Sorry, I think this is making it overly difficult, but I would rather not cheat.
 
Mmm... yes that is quite a little toughy. But then again I haven't studied limits passed the high school level so I wouldn't be too sure.

I've tried something, maybe it's what you're looking for? Or even then it could be completely invalid so don't take this solution seriously.

I'll use a similar example of \lim_{x\to 0}\csc(x)-\cot(x)

If we let \lim_{x\to 0}\csc(x)-\cot(x)=k and manipulating the limit gives us \lim_{x\to 0}\frac{\tan(x)-\sin(x)}{\sin(x)\cdot \tan(x)} which is the same as \lim_{x\to 0}\frac{\tan(x)}{\sin(x)}\cdot \frac{1}{\tan(x)}-\frac{\sin(x)}{\tan(x)}\cdot \frac{1}{\sin(x)} and we know that...

edit: felt like I was giving away too much info - since it was the entire solution :biggrin:

Can you finish this off?
 
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Regarding to your problem,

Make the denominator common, apply L'hopital's rule once and after applying a trig identity you should be able to cancel out a tan(x). The answer is pretty clear afterwards.

I will post a solution up if you need.

Regards,

sakodo
 
After you combine the fractions in the original problem, you just need l'Hôpital's rule twice to get the limit; no infinite loop :wink:
 

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