Infinite Union of Non-disjoint Sets

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating the inequality \(\mu(\bigcup^{\infty}_{k=1}A_{k})\leq \sum^{\infty}_{k=1}\mu(A_{k})\), where \(\mu\) represents the Lebesgue measure and \(A_k\) are countable Borel sets. Participants are exploring the implications of non-disjoint sets on this inequality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to account for elements present in multiple sets and consider breaking down the sets into those containing unique elements versus those shared among sets. There is mention of using the definition of external measure and hints provided in class to guide the approach.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confidence in showing the basic case of \(\mu(A \cup B) \leq \mu(A) + \mu(B)\), while others seek clarification on the notation \(V_n\) introduced in the discussion. The conversation indicates a productive exploration of the topic, with various interpretations and approaches being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the approach to the problem may be unconventional, and there is a reference to the outer Lebesgue measure, which has not been covered in their coursework. This suggests a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


To give some context, I'm trying to show that \mu(\bigcup^{\infty}_{k=1}A_{k})\leq \sum^{\infty}_{k=1}\mu(A_{k}) where μ is the Lebesgue measure and the A's are a countable set of Borel sets.

Since the A's may not be disjoint, I'm trying to rewrite the left side of the equation to somehow show that the elements that are present in more than one set are not being counted in the same way that they are on the right, which causes the left side to be smaller (or equal if all sets are disjoint).

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The Attempt at a Solution


In class we were given the hint to consider elements that are only in one set, present in 2 sets, in 3 sets, etc. and use this to rewrite the inequality.

The elements that are only in one set particular set A_{k} = A_{k} \setminus \bigcup^{k-1}_{i=1} A_{i}. When I union all of these, it looks pretty messy.
I'm stuck on figuring out how to write elements that are present in more than one set. Does this approach look like it's on the right track?

(From what I've read it seems to common to build this up using the outer Lebesgue measure, but we haven't covered that. It seem like the way we're going about this is kind of unconventional)
 
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use the definition of external measure as infimum.
 
Yagoda said:

Homework Statement


To give some context, I'm trying to show that \mu(\bigcup^{\infty}_{k=1}A_{k})\leq \sum^{\infty}_{k=1}\mu(A_{k}) where μ is the Lebesgue measure and the A's are a countable set of Borel sets.

Since the A's may not be disjoint, I'm trying to rewrite the left side of the equation to somehow show that the elements that are present in more than one set are not being counted in the same way that they are on the right, which causes the left side to be smaller (or equal if all sets are disjoint).

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


In class we were given the hint to consider elements that are only in one set, present in 2 sets, in 3 sets, etc. and use this to rewrite the inequality.

The elements that are only in one set particular set A_{k} = A_{k} \setminus \bigcup^{k-1}_{i=1} A_{i}. When I union all of these, it looks pretty messy.
I'm stuck on figuring out how to write elements that are present in more than one set. Does this approach look like it's on the right track?

(From what I've read it seems to common to build this up using the outer Lebesgue measure, but we haven't covered that. It seem like the way we're going about this is kind of unconventional)

Can you show \mu(A \cup B) \leq \mu(A) + \mu(B)? If so, you can get by induction that V_n \equiv \mu \left( \cup_{i=1}^n A_i \right) \leq \sum_{i=1}^n \mu(A_i) \leq \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \mu(A_i). The numbers Vn are non-negative, increasing in n and are all <= the infinite sum of μ(Ai). What does that tell you?

RGV
 
Yes, I think I can show that μ(A∪B)≤μ(A)+μ(B).

What is Vn, though?
 
Yagoda said:
Yes, I think I can show that μ(A∪B)≤μ(A)+μ(B).

What is Vn, though?

I *defined* Vn to be \mu \left( \cup_{i=1}^n A_i \right),; did you miss the \equiv sign?

RGV
 

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