Infinite volume limit literature?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the infinite volume limit in quantum field theory (QFT), specifically the transition from quantization in a finite box with periodic boundary conditions to quantization in Minkowski space as the box size approaches infinity. Participants seek literature that rigorously addresses this limit, including the formal replacements involved, such as transitioning from sums to integrals and discrete to continuum variables.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding literature that discusses the infinite volume limit in a rigorous manner, specifically looking for detailed treatment of the formal limit.
  • Another participant mentions that the topic is often treated in a handwavey way in path integral derivations and lattice theory primers, suggesting that there are subtleties depending on the approach taken.
  • It is proposed that there are two main approaches to this limit: the lattice approach (referencing Wilson) and a more intricate mathematical physics approach (citing Jaffe and others).
  • A participant recalls Glimm & Jaffe as a potential source but notes the extensive nature of their literature and the difficulty in finding specific references that address the technicalities of the infinite volume limit.
  • One participant questions the practical implications of understanding the infinite volume limit, asking what particular problems it could relate to.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on specific literature or the implications of the infinite volume limit, indicating that multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the best approaches and resources.

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Limitations include the potential for missing assumptions in the literature, the dependence on specific definitions of terms, and unresolved mathematical steps in the transition from finite to infinite volume.

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Hey everybody,

I'm currently struggling to make sense of the infinite volume limit of a QFT. What I'm talking about is the (formal) limit of "quantization in a box with periodic boundary conditions" to "quantization in Minkowski space" as the side of the box goes to infinity. Does anyone know of an article or book where this approach is taken? Possibly where the actual formal limit is discussed. No just "And as we take the infinite volume limit we obtain the continuum representation of the operators." but possibly where the various replacements are discussed (sums -> integrals, discrete variables -> continuum variables and so on) more carefully?

Thanks!
 
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I have that more precisely as lecture notes, but you often see it treated in a kind of roundabout, handwavey way when deriving the path integral and often in lattice theory primers.

Indeed there are a lot of sublteties depending on exactly what you are looking for, and afaik you can take basically take two roads.

The lattice road (alla Wilson) or the more intricate mathematical physics road (see eg Jaffe and people like that)

My guess is probably a lattice theory textbook is your best bet.
 
Haelfix -> Actually I really had Glimm & Jaffe at the back of mind when asking the question. Thing is, their literature is HUGE, and the only paper I have that deals with the infinite volume limit does not address these technicalities. They cite 3 other references: Jaffe's PhD thesis and two proceedings from random conferences, i.e. almost impossible to obtain and surely not quickly. If you have any kind of reference in this sense it'd help a lot!
 
What do you expect to gain from it? What a particular problem can be related to it?
 

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