Inflate aluminium tube to increase it’s strength?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential of using pressurized thin-walled aluminum tubes to enhance their structural properties in the context of designing a human-powered helicopter (HPH). Participants explore various methods and considerations related to the structural integrity and strength of materials used in the design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that filling a thin-walled aluminum tube with compressed air could strengthen its structural properties.
  • Another participant suggests considering the tension on the tubing's wall when evaluating the effects of pressure.
  • A later reply emphasizes that pressurizing the tube induces axial and hoop stresses, which could increase compression strength but also risks exceeding yield strength, leading to rupture.
  • Some participants express a preference for increasing the thickness of the tube walls over pressurization, even if it results in added weight, to prevent brittle fracture.
  • One participant shares alternative methods they are exploring, such as pre-stressing styrene foam, cable-staying, and creating an inverted conical shape with wing spars to reduce weight.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of pressurizing aluminum tubes, with some expressing skepticism about this method while others suggest it could be beneficial under certain conditions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best approach to enhance structural strength.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering loading conditions, stress analysis, and the potential risks associated with hoop stresses when evaluating the use of pressurized tubes.

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I’m designing and hope to build a human powered helicopter (HPH) and am wondering if pressurising a thin walled aluminium tube by filling it with compressed air would strengthen it’s structural properties.

Hope this is the right place to post this.
 
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Good luck with the HPH. Here's a place to start when considering pressure.

e.g. consider the tension on the tubing's wall.

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dlgoff said:
Good luck with the HPH. Here's a place to start when considering pressure.

e.g. consider the tension on the tubing's wall.

lapb.jpg

Thanks.
 
Also, it will depend on the loading on the beam. Pressurizing the thin walled tube induces axial and hoop stresses. Thus you increase it's compression strength in the axial direction, but be very careful that the hoop stresses are not increased so much that you exceed the yield strength causing rupture.

From a stress analysis and fracture mechanics perspective, I would be much more inclined to increase the thickness of the tube walls, even if it increases the weight. Ideally, you can fit several thin tubes inside each other, in order to prevent brittle fracture (which would be veeery bad for you application)
 
Thanks. I agree that pressurising aluminium tubes probably isn’t the best method. I’m working on other methods that include pre-stressing styrene foam, cable-staying and creating an inverted conical shape with the wing spars and tying them together with multiple lines like a spider‘s web. Overall I’m trying to reduce the weight of the wing spars I use.
 

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