Inflection Point of y=2√x-x: Derivative Analysis

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The discussion revolves around finding the inflection point of the function y=2√x-x through derivative analysis. Participants are examining the first and second derivatives to determine the behavior of the function regarding concavity and inflection points.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to compute the first and second derivatives of the function, with some questioning the correctness of their calculations. There is a focus on whether the second derivative can equal zero and what that implies for the existence of inflection points.

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Several participants are exploring the implications of their derivative findings, with some suggesting that the second derivative does not equal zero and thus indicating no inflection points exist. There is an ongoing examination of the concavity of the function without visual aids.

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Participants note that x=0 is not in the domain of the function due to the denominator in the second derivative, which raises questions about the validity of certain solutions. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the behavior of the function's concavity.

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Homework Statement



y=2√x-x


The Attempt at a Solution



First derivative:
-2x-2-1
Second derivative:
4x-3

4x-3=0
No solutions?
 
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[tex]\sqrt{x}=x^{1/2}[/tex]

So [tex]y=2x^{1/2}-x[/tex]

Then [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=x^{-1/2}-1[/tex]

Which isn't what you got.
 
But even so, if you correctly find the second derivative you'll see that it cannot equal 0, which means there is no inflection point. This means the graph of y=f(x) doesn't ever go from concave up to concave down or vice versa, it is always just one. Can you figure out whether it is always concave up or down without looking at the graph?
 
Mentallic said:
But even so, if you correctly find the second derivative you'll see that it cannot equal 0, which means there is no inflection point. This means the graph of y=f(x) doesn't ever go from concave up to concave down or vice versa, it is always just one. Can you figure out whether it is always concave up or down without looking at the graph?

So the first derivative is
(x-1/2-1)
I take a second derivative to find an inflection point.
y''=-1/2x-3/2 Hence, x=0...

What does it mean?...
 
[tex]y'' = -\frac{1}{2}x^{-\frac{3}{2}} = -\frac{1}{2x^{3/2}}[/tex]

x = 0 isn't in the domain because you would have 0 in the denominator, but that's not really important. This function y'' is never 0, it will never touch the x-axis, so y does not have an inflection point.
 
Bohrok said:
[tex]y'' = -\frac{1}{2}x^{-\frac{3}{2}} = -\frac{1}{2x^{3/2}}[/tex]

x = 0 isn't in the domain because you would have 0 in the denominator, but that's not really important. This function y'' is never 0, it will never touch the x-axis, so y does not have an inflection point.

Yes, I see I was wrong, I cannot have x=0 as a solution in this function.
 

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