Inhomogeneous electromagnetic wave equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the inhomogeneous electromagnetic wave equation as it pertains to modeling an electron beam propagating through a plasma. Participants explore various mathematical approaches to solve the equation, including potential formulations, Fourier transforms, and Green's functions, while addressing the complexities introduced by the charge density and boundary conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Mat proposes a potential formulation of electrodynamics for a rigid electron beam with cylindrical symmetry, leading to a specific inhomogeneous wave equation.
  • One participant suggests using Fourier transforms to transition from the time domain to the frequency domain, followed by separation of variables.
  • Mat counters that Fourier transforms are problematic due to the need to transform a constant charge density and the requirement for an infinite domain.
  • Another participant notes that there are no separable solutions for the case where charge density is zero and proposes a traveling wave solution to simplify the PDE.
  • Sam introduces a Green's function approach, detailing an intermediate equation between wave propagation and diffusion, and provides a method for solving it using contour integrals and Bessel functions.
  • Mat expresses a lack of familiarity with Green's functions and suggests a simpler approach using Laplace transforms to solve the modified PDE.
  • Mat also comments on the nature of wave propagation in relation to the parameters alpha and beta, indicating that damping effects may vary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of Fourier transforms and separation of variables, with no consensus reached on the best approach to solve the equation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective method for addressing the inhomogeneous wave equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the assumptions of charge density and the domain of the problem, as well as the challenges in finding separable solutions. The discussion reflects ongoing exploration of mathematical techniques without definitive resolutions.

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Hi,

I am looking at electron beam going through a plasma. I am modelling it using two regions, the electron beam and external to the electron beam. I am using the potential formulation of electrodynamics and I am modelling a rigid electron beam and assuming cylindrical symmetry for simplicity.

I come down (with my assumption for the current) to solving the following equation:
[tex] -\nabla^{2}\varphi +\frac{1}{c^{2}}\frac{\partial^{2}\varphi}{\partial t^{2}}+\mu_{0}\sigma\frac{\partial\varphi}{\partial t}=\frac{\rho}{\varepsilon_{0}}[/tex]
The charge density is constant. I am not too sure how to go about solving this equation, would it be via Green's functions? Can someone provide me with a reference please.

Regards

Mat
 
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I haven't worked it out yet, but the first method that comes to mind is to Fourier transform your PDE from time domain to frequency domain, and then solve the resulting inhomogeneous Poisson's equation using separation of variables in cylindrical coordinates.
 
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. The problem with Fourier transforms is that you have to take the Fourier transform of a constant which doesn't exist. With regards with the separation of variables, it won't work as rho is a constant. Separation of variables works for the region outside of the beam where rho=0 (I have worked that part out).

Mat
 
Another problem with the Fourier transform is that it requires an infinite domain which this problem doesn't have.
 
I have been doing some work on this and I have come to the conclusion that there no separable solutions for the case [tex]\rho =0[/tex]. As I want to look at the problem of an electron beam propagating into the plasma, I thought about writing the solution as
[tex] \varphi =f(r,z-v_{0}t)[/tex]
This will reduce the PDE down to one with two variables rather than three and this makes it more tangible for a solution to be written down.

Thought?
 
[tex] \alpha \frac{\partial\phi}{\partial t} + \beta \frac{\partial^{2} \phi}{\partial t^{2}} - \nabla^{2} \phi = \rho (r,t) \ \ (1)[/tex]

This equation stands intermediate between one of wave propagation ([itex]\beta \gg \alpha[/itex]) and one of diffusion ([itex]\alpha \gg \beta[/itex]). It can be solved by the Green’s function befined by;

[tex] \alpha \frac{\partial G}{\partial t} + \beta \frac{\partial^{2} G}{\partial t^{2}} - \nabla^{2} G = \delta (r) \delta(t) \ \ (2)[/tex]

Write

[tex] G(r,t) = \int d^{3}k d \omega \hat{G}(k,\omega) e^{i(\vec{k}.\vec{r} - \omega t )} \ \ (3)[/tex]

From eq(2), you find

[tex] \hat{G}(k,\omega) = (1/2 \pi )^{4} \frac{1}{k^{2} - k_{0}^{2}} \ \ (4)[/tex]

where

[tex]k_{0}^{2} = \beta \omega^{2} + i \alpha \omega[/tex]

Eq(3) becomes

[tex] G(r,t) = (\frac{1}{2 \pi})^{4}\ \int d \omega e^{-i \omega t} \ \int d^{3}k \frac{e^{i\vec{k}.\vec{r}}}{k^{2} - k_{0}^{2}}[/tex]

or, by doing the angular integration,

[tex] G(r,t) = \frac{1}{8 \pi^{3} r} \int d \omega e^{-i \omega t} \ \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} dk \frac{k \sin{kr}}{k^{2} - k_{0}^{2}}[/tex]

The k-integral may be evaluated as a contour integral to give [itex]\exp (ik_{0}r)[/itex].
Thus

[tex] G(r,t) = \frac{1}{8\pi^{3}r} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} d \omega \ e^{i(k_{0}r - \omega t)}[/tex]

I believe, this integral can be evaluated in terms of Bessel’s functions. Now, do you know how to write the field [itex]\phi[/itex] in terms of [itex]G(r,t)[/itex]? In order to do that, you need to know the values of [itex]\phi (r,t)[/itex] and [itex]\partial_{t}\phi (r,t)[/itex] at t = 0, and the value of [itex]\nabla \phi + a \phi[/itex] on some specified surfaces.

sam
 
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Hi Sam,

Sorry for being rude and not saying thanks (thanks by the way) but I have been a little distracted. I know nothing about Greens function and I will have to learn about them before I can understand your answer.

I thought of more simple way of looking at things (I have convinced that there are no separable solutions to the problem) by looking for a traveling wave solution of the form [tex]\varphi =f(r,z-v_{0}t)[/tex] which would turn the PDE in three variables into one with two which can then be solved via Laplace transforms. in [tex]w=z-v_{0}t[/tex]

With regard to the wave propagation question. Regardless of the relative sizes of alpha and beta, there is still wave propagation but the damping term may or may not have a large effect.

Mat
 

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