Initial Value Problem Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around an initial value problem involving a first-order linear differential equation represented as L(dI/dt) + RI = E, with the initial condition I(0) = I0. Participants explore the implications of the equation and the role of the initial condition in finding a solution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the separation of variables and integration, questioning how to handle the constants involved. Some clarify the nature of the variables and constants in the equation, while others suggest methods for finding the general and particular solutions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants offer guidance on solving the equation and emphasize the importance of the initial condition, while others clarify misunderstandings regarding the variables involved.

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There is some confusion regarding the equation's terms and the role of constants, with participants addressing potential misunderstandings about the nature of the variables and the integration process. The initial condition's utility is also questioned.

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[itex]L\frac{dI}{dt}+RI=E[/itex]
[itex]I(0) = I_{0}[/itex]

Where E is a constant.


I know I need to separate the equation and integrate but I am not quite sure how given all the variables running around...
I don't see how the condition of [itex]I(0) = I_{0}[/itex] helps in any way.
 
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Okay, you have the equation [itex]\frac{dI}{dt}=\frac{E}{L}[/itex], if L is a constant also then you should know what the solution to this differential equation is, solving for the initial condition then reduces to the problem of finding what the arbitrary constant should be!

Edit;
Whoops, just noticed that the first + isn't an equals sign :p
Still, it's just a first order ODE with constant coefficients which you should know how to solve.
If not I'm pretty sure there are 100+ videos on youtube that will teach you how!

good luck
 
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"All the variables running around"? There are only two variables, the independent variable t and the dependent variable I. All The other letters are constants.

The "dI/dt" tells you that I is a function of t. If there were any other variables, that would have to be a partial derivative, [itex]\partial I/\partial t[/itex]. But even if it were, partial derivatives are taken treating other variables as constants.

Of course, you could have a problem in which E, R, and L are functions of t but in that case you would have to be told what those functions are.

[tex]L\frac{dI}{dt}= E- R[/tex]

[tex]\frac{L}{E- R}dI= dt[/tex]

Integrating will give a "constant of integration" which you can use [/itex]I(0)= I_0[/itex]. Of course, your equation for I(t) will involve the constants E, L, R, and [itex]I_0[/itex].
 
This is a first order linear equation. First find the general solution of the homogeneous part LdI/dt+RI=0. It is of the form I=Cekt. Then find a particular solution of the inhomogeneous equation, and add to the general solution of the homogeneous one. The particular solution can be a constant in this case. So the solution will be of the form I=Cekt+B. Plug into the original equation and find the parameters k and B.

C is fitted to the initial condition: At t=0, I=Io.

ehild
 
genericusrnme said:
Okay, you have the equation [itex]\frac{dI}{dt}=\frac{E}{L}[/itex]

You omitted the term RI.
The equation is [itex]L\frac{dI}{dt}+RI=E[/itex]


ehild
 
HallsofIvy said:
[tex]L\frac{dI}{dt}= E- R[/tex]

The equation is [tex]L\frac{dI}{dt}= E- RI[/tex]

ehild
 

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