Inner Product=Dot Product always?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the dot product and inner product, exploring their definitions, properties, and examples. It includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding vector spaces and operations within them.

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  • Some participants inquire about the difference between dot product and inner product, noting that they are described as generalizations of each other.
  • One participant explains that an inner product is defined in a vector space and that a space with an inner product is termed an "inner product space." They mention that inner products can measure lengths and angles.
  • Another participant states that the dot product is a specific example of an inner product that exists in Euclidean space and relates to the Pythagorean theorem.
  • It is noted that some inner products can be defined using integrals, which may be encountered in advanced physics education.
  • A participant outlines the properties that define a real inner product, providing specific rules that must be satisfied, and illustrates that the dot product in ℝ3 meets these criteria.
  • They further mention that modified versions of the dot product can also qualify as inner products, indicating that the standard dot product is just one example among many.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the relationship between dot products and inner products, with no consensus reached on a singular definition or understanding. Multiple interpretations and examples are presented, indicating ongoing exploration of the topic.

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Some assumptions regarding the definitions of inner products and dot products may not be universally agreed upon, and the discussion does not resolve the broader implications of these definitions in different contexts.

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What is the difference between a dot product and an inner product. The internet says that they are generalizations of each other. What does that even mean? Thanks for any help.
 
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Inner product <,> is an operation defined in a vector space - if the vector space has an inner product, it is called an "inner product space".

You can measure things with your inner product: lengths and angles.

The common dot product is an example of an inner product that is algebraic; it exists in a Euclidean space, and corresponds to the Pythagorean theorem. Hence the really simple rule for evaluation when using rectangular coordinates.

Some inner products are defined by integrals ... you will run into these are your physics education progresses.
 
Whats the relation between them?
 
A real inner product ##<\cdot,\cdot>## of two vectors is an operation that satisfies the following rules:

1. ##<x,y>=<y,x>##
2. ##<\alpha x + \beta y,z>=\alpha <x,z> + \beta <y,z>## for any real numbers ##\alpha## and ##\beta## and vectors ##x,y,z##.
3. ##<x,x>\geq 0## and ##0## only if ##x=0## (zero vector).

For example, the dot product of two vectors in ℝ3 is defined as

##<x,y>=x_{1}y_{1}+x_{2}y_{2}+x_{3}y_{3}##. You can check that this satisfies the rules and therefore the dot product is an inner product. However, also any modified dot product defined by ##<x,y>=ax_{1}y_{1}+bx_{2}y_{2}+cx_{3}y_{3}##, where ##a,b,c## are positive real constants, also satisfies the rules and is an inner product too. Therefore the usual dot product is only one example of an inner product.
 
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