Inserting a steel rod into a current-carrying copper pipe

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The discussion revolves around the insertion of an unmagnetized steel rod into a current-carrying copper pipe. The context involves understanding the magnetic field behavior as described by Ampere's law and the implications of the rod's unmagnetized state.

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  • Participants explore the effects of inserting the steel rod into a field-free region and question whether any induced currents or magnetic fields would arise from the rod's presence. There is a focus on the implications of the rod being unmagnetized and the relevance of Lenz's law.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the situation. Some express confidence in their reasoning while others seek further insights or clarification on potential overlooked aspects.

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The inquiry is framed as a school-related question posed by a high-school teacher for a student project, which may influence the level of detail and rigor expected in the responses.

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The situation is as follows: Current I flows along the axis of the copper pipe. From Ampere's law, the magnetic field inside the pipe is zero and is equal to μ0*I/(2π*r) outside the pipe. Now, an unmagnetized steel rod is inserted into the hollow pipe. What, if anything, happens?
 
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orzyszpon said:
The situation is as follows: Current I flows along the axis of the copper pipe. From Ampere's law, the magnetic field inside the pipe is zero and is equal to μ0*I/(2π*r) outside the pipe. Now, an unmagnetized steel rod is inserted into the hollow pipe. What, if anything, happens?
What are your thoughts?
 
I think that nothing will happen. The steel rod is inserted into a field-free region, and the rod itself is unmagnetized. Had it been magnetized, it would have induced currents in the copper pipe that would have produced a magnetic field opposing the motion of the steel rod. However, the steel rod is not magnetized here, and I wanted to hear from the learned audience at the Physics Forum.
 
orzyszpon said:
I think that nothing will happen. The steel rod is inserted into a field-free region, and the rod itself is unmagnetized. Had it been magnetized, it would have induced currents in the copper pipe that would have produced a magnetic field opposing the motion of the steel rod. However, the steel rod is not magnetized here, and I wanted to hear from the learned audience at the Physics Forum.
Your thoughts seem okay so far to me. Is this a schoolwork question?
 
Yes, it is a schol-related question asked of me by a high-school teacher with regard to a student project. I wonder whether there is anything I am not seeing that would upset what seems like a logical thread of thought. I can't see Lenz's law operating here. Thank you for your interest.
 
Since it is for schoolwork, I'll go ahead and move this thread to the schoolwork forums.
 
When will you be able to check your answer?
 
We are the answer. There is no cavalry coming.
 
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