Installing Snap Ring on a Shaft with Larger OD

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of installing a snap ring rated for 5 mm diameter shafts onto a 6 mm diameter shaft. Participants explore the challenges associated with this installation, including the potential for damage to the snap ring and the difficulty of achieving the necessary deformation for proper seating in the groove.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in installing a snap ring rated for 5 mm diameter shafts over a 6 mm diameter shaft, questioning the feasibility of this installation given the proper tools and groove size.
  • Another participant suggests adhering to manufacturer specifications based on their experience with snap rings that seem too small or too loose for the shaft.
  • A participant notes that passing the snap ring over a 6 mm shaft into a 4.8 mm groove would be very difficult, indicating that the snap ring may buckle and twist during the process.
  • It is mentioned that the split in the snap ring would need to open to at least 4.08 mm to accommodate the 6 mm diameter, with the possibility of requiring even more deformation due to non-uniformity.
  • One participant recommends finding a different solution rather than attempting to use the 5 mm snap ring on the 6 mm shaft.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using the snap ring on a larger shaft, with some suggesting it may be too difficult and others emphasizing adherence to manufacturer specifications. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the challenges of deformation and installation, as well as the potential for damage to the snap ring, but do not resolve the technical difficulties associated with the installation process.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in mechanical engineering, specifically those dealing with snap rings and retaining mechanisms, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello! Long story short, I am interested in installing a snap ring rated for 5 mm diameter shafts over a 6 mm diameter shaft into the appropriate groove. For several reasons, I cannot use other types of retaining rings (i.e. side mount E-style retaining rings, etc). This is the snap ring:

https://www.mcmaster.com/90154A101/

Unfortunately, I am not able to quickly get my hands on a rotary shaft with the proper grooves and retaining rings to test this out experimentally. Assuming I have the proper installation tools and that the groove is properly sized to fit the snap ring, is this possible, or will it be too difficult to open the snap ring 1 mm farther than the rated OD of the snap ring? In general, how far can I open a snap ring over its rated shaft OD until it yields or gets damaged?

Thank you in advance! Let me know if I should clarify anything.
 
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I have installed and removed a lot of snap rings over the years. Without knowing any details I can only say go by the manufacturer specs. I've worked with snap rings that are seemingly too small for the shaft yet are oem sourced. I've also seen the time that in my opinion they are too loose and also oem sourced.
 
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harpoon said:
... is this possible, or will it be too difficult to open the snap ring 1 mm farther than the rated OD of the snap ring?
It is designed to pass over a 5 mm diameter shaft, to seat in a 4.8 mm diameter groove. To pass it over a 6 mm shaft, into a 4.8 mm diameter groove will be very difficult. It will buckle and twist. You will need to make it into a long helical turn to pass it over the 6 mm shaft. It will then be difficult to flatten it again as it is seated in the deep groove. Cutting the deeper groove in the 6 mm shaft will be difficult, and the ring will only just show above the lip.
Why not use a 6 mm ring on the 6 mm shaft?
 
That split in the snap ring will have to open up to at least 4.08mm to get a 6mm dia. In reality, probably a bit more considering that much deformation will not be uniform. Good luck with that!

I recommend finding a different solution.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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