Instant Battery Charging: Is it Possible?

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical possibility of instant battery charging using supercapacitors, particularly in the context of the EEStor technology. Participants explore various aspects of this concept, including its feasibility, potential applications, and the implications of existing claims about the technology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether it is theoretically possible to charge a battery bank from a supercapacitor bank instantly, noting that the types of capacitors and batteries, as well as their applications, are unspecified.
  • Others mention that while the EEStor technology is intriguing, it does not claim "instant" charging but rather faster charging compared to traditional batteries.
  • A participant expresses interest in the potential of using low voltage electric generators to charge capacitor banks that could then charge batteries for off-grid living, highlighting the benefits of combining capacitor and battery banks.
  • One participant provides a theoretical framework for charging batteries from capacitors, discussing capacitance and the challenges of finding sufficiently large capacitors to make a meaningful charge.
  • Concerns are raised about the credibility of EEStor's claims, with some participants suggesting that the lack of demonstrated products raises doubts about the technology's viability.
  • Another participant introduces a conspiracy theory regarding the oil industry suppressing the technology, suggesting that it is being used for secret projects, which is met with skepticism from others who call for evidence to support such claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of curiosity and skepticism regarding the EEStor technology and its claims. There is no consensus on the feasibility of instant charging or the validity of conspiracy theories surrounding the technology.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the discussion, such as the unspecified types of capacitors and batteries, and the lack of empirical evidence for EEStor's claims. The discussion also reflects varying levels of technical understanding and differing interpretations of the technology's implications.

Is EEStor real or an ellaborate hoax?

  • Yes, Definately Possible.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, It is a Hoax.

    Votes: 1 33.3%

  • I have no clue what youre talking about, or am unsure.

    Votes: 2 66.7%

  • The government doesnt want us to know.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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http://arstechnica.com/science/news...lead-to-instant-charging-long-charge-life.ars

Ive been reading a little on this EEStor thing. With so many negative comments about it and secrecy behind it, I began pondering it and would like more feed back.

Question: Is it theoretically possible to charge a battery bank from a super capacitor bank instantly? Keeping in mind that the types of capacitors and batteries are not specified, and use for the power ie: commercial, industrial, residential, or personal is not specified either.



Please prove your answers.
 
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Looks like an interesting technology if they can pull it off:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEStor

Guess we just have to wait and see if it's real or not. BTW, the wiki article does not claim "instant" charging. It charges at the rate of a capacitor, versus the chemical battery's longer charging time. Still much faster though.
 


Thanks for your reply bro.

I was basing my post on the latest article I read which uses the term "Instant".

For you "Sheldon Coopers" and other nit pickers out there, I of course know that a battery or capacitor can not be instantly charged like electricity to a light bulb by the flick of a switch.

What interests me is the possibility of low voltage electric generators charging capacitor banks flowing to an inverter or converter or transformer charging a bank of batteries for off grid living, and renewable energy from multiple simultaneous sources.

What I am too lazy to research in the 42 electrical engineering books I have in front of me, is the benefits, if any, of using both a capacitor bank and a battery bank of any material or configuration.

Hence, my thread post here.

Thanks.
 


Sure, in theory it is possible to charge batteries from capacitors:

C = Q/V

That is Capacitance = 1 Coulomb of charge per 1 Volt

Charging a battery is inputting current to it, or I = dQ/dt, and this occurs when Vsource > Vbatt. The problem is not in charging batteries from capacitors, but finding capacitors large enough for the charge to be meaningful to the battery.

Discovering, Inventing or refining a process to create a dielectric capable of withstanding the energy densities claimed by EEStor seems unlikely in the near future, but not impossible. The fact that EEStor has announced a product that they have as yet to demonstrate lends NO credence to their claims, but does not guarantee their claims are fraudulent.

There are numerous other "strikes" against EEStor's claim, but until they reveal a product for unbiased review, their claims cannot be 100% refuted...BUT, if it walks like a duck, it is prolly just a duck, IMHO.

Fish
 
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Thank you so much for your reply Fish. If what they have is real then the greatest leap forward in electronic and computer technology is here.
 


The oil industry pays this company to keep this technology off the market for obvious reasons - this is why there are still investors; because the tech is real, but suppressed. Lockheed-Martin (partner of EEStor as seen on Wikipedia) is currently using this technology for black projects.
 


Exxon said:
The oil industry pays this company to keep this technology off the market for obvious reasons - this is why there are still investors; because the tech is real, but suppressed. Lockheed-Martin (partner of EEStor as seen on Wikipedia) is currently using this technology for black projects.

You need to support these claims, else you look like a conspiracy theory fruitcake.