Instantaneous torque in a 3-phase motor

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The discussion revolves around the concept of instantaneous torque in a 3-phase induction motor, particularly in the context of a balanced system with a constant load. Participants explore the relationship between instantaneous power and torque, as well as the effects of rotor slip and design features such as skewed slots in the armature.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that in a balanced 3-phase system with a constant load, instantaneous torque might be constant throughout each revolution, but acknowledges the potential for variability due to rotor slip.
  • Another participant points out that skewed slots in the armature are designed to relieve magnetic discontinuity, which may help smooth out torque and reduce audible noise.
  • A third participant references a YouTube video that illustrates the skew in AC motors, indicating a visual resource related to the topic.
  • A later reply expresses appreciation for the information shared, indicating a follow-up question was anticipated.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the nature of instantaneous torque in 3-phase motors, with some exploring the idea of constancy while others highlight design features that may influence torque characteristics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of instantaneous torque and the effects of rotor slip, which remain unresolved. The implications of skewed slots on torque smoothness are also noted but not fully explored.

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This isn't a homework question because nobody assigned it to me. It is a theoretical question however.

I understand that in a balanced 3-phase system with a constant load, instantaneous power is constant. Not "pretty constant" but a flat line. This suggests to me (warning: amateur) that instantaneous torque, in a 3-phase induction motor, might also be constant throughout each revolution, assuming a fixed load. But, given that slip is necessary, and that the rotor experiences a frequency of a few hertz, it may be hopelessly naive to imagine that torque isn't somewhat "bumpy."

Again - this is instantaneous torque I'm thinking of, measured throughout a machine cycle or two, not torque vs. load or any of that usual motory spec stuff. ;-)

I've exhausted the books I have at hand, and I feel as though I've seen every torque curve on the internet by now. Perhaps it's not an important question but it's burning a hole in my curiosity.
 
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Look at an armature and observe the slots are skewed, not parallel to the shaft.

That's done to relieve the magnetic discontinuity as the rotor slots pass under the armature slots, smoothing out torque and reducing audible "hum".

try a search on 'squirrel cage slots skew' . There's a 1948 patent that looks interesting ,,, but on this computer i couldn't read it for some obscure software reason..

http://ecee.colorado.edu/~ecen4517/materials/InductionMotor.pdf

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here is a youtube breakout of an AC motor that shows the skew.

 
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You anticipated my follow-up too. Thanks.
 

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