Three phase Induction Motor torque/slip HELP NEEDED

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of a three-phase induction motor, specifically focusing on the torque versus slip characteristics, current calculations at various operational points, and the determination of maximum torque slip. The scope includes theoretical calculations and mathematical reasoning related to motor performance under specified conditions.

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  • One participant requests assistance with an assignment involving a three-phase induction motor with specific parameters, including voltage, rotor resistance, and reactance.
  • Another participant provides a formula for calculating rotor current and torque, applying it to find values at start and rated conditions.
  • A subsequent post discusses the calculation of maximum torque slip using the derivative of torque with respect to slip, leading to a specific slip value for maximum torque.
  • A correction is made regarding the torque values at specific slip values, indicating a revision of earlier calculations.

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There is no consensus on the calculations presented, as participants provide different values and corrections for torque at various slips. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the accuracy of these calculations.

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Participants have not fully clarified assumptions regarding the neglect of certain effects in the rotor winding, and there are unresolved mathematical steps in the derivation of torque and current values.

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Students and professionals interested in the performance analysis of induction motors, particularly in the context of electrical engineering and motor control applications.

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Hi, I'm really stuck on this assignment question and could do with a hand on the step by step process of how to get the answers.

A three phase induction motor as 2 poles, a standstill voltage of 121 v/phase (Er), rotor resistance of 0.15Ω/phase (Rr) and a standstill rotor reactance of 1.2Ω/phase (Xr)

1. Plot the torque against slip characteristic when the supply frequency is 50Hz for slip values of 1.0, 0.75, 0.5, 0.25, & 0.05

2. Determine the current in each phase of the rotor
A) At start
B) At maximum torque
C) At full load torque if this occurs at a slip of 4%
 
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Neglecting skin and proximity effect in rotor winding-or squirrel cage-
Irot=s*Er/sqrt(Rr^2+s^2*Xr^2) [A] Er[V] ,Rr,Xr [ohm]
Tqmot=3*Irot^2*Rr/s/(2*pi()*f/p) [Nm] p=no.of pole pairs=1
For s=1 [at start] Ir=100 A Tq= 14.33 Nm
For s=0.04 [rated] Ir=30.73 A Tq= 1691 Nm
 
Sorry, I forgot the maximum torque slip calculation.
The maximum torque slip it is the slip calculated from dTq/ds=0.
If Tq=3*I^2*R/s/(2*PI()*f/p) and I=s*Er/sqrt(R^2+s^2*X^2) then
Tq =3*s^2*Er^2/(R^2+s^2*X^2)/s*R/(2*pi()*f/p)
dTq/ds=3*Er^2/(2*pi()*f/p)*[(R^2+s^2*X^2)-2*s^2*X^2]=0
X^2*s^2=R^2
s=R/X
sm=0.15/1.2=0.125
 
correction:
s=0.04 Tq= 33.81 !
s=0.125 Tq= 58.25
Sorry!
 

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