Instrument attached to wire - Newton's laws

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 5.10 kg instrument hanging from a wire in a spaceship that accelerates upward. Participants are tasked with drawing a free-body diagram and calculating the force exerted by the wire on the instrument during the spaceship's ascent to an altitude of 290 m in 10 seconds.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the free-body diagram, identifying tension and weight as the primary forces. There is debate over the correct calculation of tension, with some questioning whether it should simply be the sum of the weight and the force due to acceleration.
  • Different methods for calculating acceleration are explored, with participants expressing confusion over the use of average velocity and the appropriate equations for constant acceleration.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning their approaches. There is acknowledgment of mistakes in previous calculations, and some participants are reconsidering their methods for determining acceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between forces and motion in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A 5.10 kg instrument is hanging by a vertical wire inside a spaceship that is blasting off at the surface of the earth. This ship starts from rest and reaches an altitude of 290 m in 10.0 s with constant acceleration.

a.) Draw a free-body diagram for the instrument during this time.(Assume that the spaceship is accelerating upward. )

b.) Find the force that the wire exerts on the instrument.

Homework Equations



f=ma
v=d/t
a=v/t

The Attempt at a Solution



I already drew the FBD, and it's just 2 vectors, the tension and weight, tension upward with more magnitude, and weight downward with less magnitude than that of tension.

The part I'm having trouble is with part 2, shouldn't the tension just be the weight of the instrument attached to the wire + the force of acceleration due to the ship?

So, T = mg + ma

T = (9.8m/s^2)(5.1kg) + (2.9m/s^2)(5.1kg)

This seems to be wrong though. (I got the 2.9m/s^2 through the v = d/t and a = v/t equations.)
 
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cdlegendary said:

Homework Statement



A 5.10 kg instrument is hanging by a vertical wire inside a spaceship that is blasting off at the surface of the earth. This ship starts from rest and reaches an altitude of 290 m in 10.0 s with constant acceleration.

a.) Draw a free-body diagram for the instrument during this time.(Assume that the spaceship is accelerating upward. )

b.) Find the force that the wire exerts on the instrument.

Homework Equations



f=ma
v=d/t
a=v/t

The Attempt at a Solution



I already drew the FBD, and it's just 2 vectors, the tension and weight, tension upward with more magnitude, and weight downward with less magnitude than that of tension.

The part I'm having trouble is with part 2, shouldn't the tension just be the weight of the instrument attached to the wire + the force of acceleration due to the ship?

So, T = mg + ma

T = (9.8m/s^2)(5.1kg) + (2.9m/s^2)(5.1kg)

This seems to be wrong though. (I got the 2.9m/s^2 through the v = d/t and a = v/t equations.)

v = d/t is average velocity so this is not a relevant equation.

But distance, d = a*t^2/2 for constant acceleration.

I got a = 2.4 m/s^2 not the 2.9 you got.
 
Spinnor said:
v = d/t is average velocity so this is not a relevant equation.

But distance, d = a*t^2/2 for constant acceleration.

I got a = 2.4 m/s^2 not the 2.9 you got.

Ah I see. I thought I could use the average velocity to get the acceleration. I guess not. Well, when I use the d = (at^2)/2 equation, I get the acceleration to be 5.8m/s^2, not 2.4. What am I doing wrong?

a = 2d/t^2 = 2(290)/(10^2)
 
cdlegendary said:
Ah I see. I thought I could use the average velocity to get the acceleration. I guess not. Well, when I use the d = (at^2)/2 equation, I get the acceleration to be 5.8m/s^2, not 2.4. What am I doing wrong?

a = 2d/t^2 = 2(290)/(10^2)

My mistake.
 

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