##\int \frac{dz}{z} ## along a line on the complex plane

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function ##\int \frac{dz}{z}## along a path in the complex plane, particularly focusing on the implications of the multivalued nature of the logarithm function and the choice of branch for the logarithm. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings, the effects of different paths on the integral, and the significance of the principal branch defined by the range ##[-\pi, \pi]##.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the integration of ##\int \frac{dz}{z}## due to the multivalued nature of ##Ln(z)## and seek clarification on the choice of the principal branch.
  • It is proposed that the principal branch restricts the imaginary part of the logarithm to the range ##[-\pi, +\pi]##.
  • Participants discuss the necessity of avoiding paths that cross the origin when evaluating the integral, suggesting specific paths and their contributions to the integral.
  • One participant illustrates how different paths can yield different contributions to the integral, depending on whether they cross the negative real axis, thus selecting different branches of the logarithm.
  • There is a debate about whether the branch ##(-\pi, \pi)## is the "true" branch, with questions raised about the validity of other branches and the conventions surrounding their use.
  • Some participants argue that the integral should be single-valued for paths that can be smoothly deformed, while others point out that crossing the branch cut can lead to different values.
  • One participant suggests that the choice of branch cut can depend on the specific problem and the nature of the paths involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of different branches of the logarithm or the implications of the principal branch. There are competing views on the necessity and implications of the branch cut, particularly concerning the paths taken in the integration.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the chosen path and the unresolved nature of how different paths affect the evaluation of the integral. The discussion highlights the complexity of integrating functions with multivalued logarithms and the implications of branch cuts.

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Some time ago I stumbled upon the integration ##\int \frac{dz}{z} ## along a line on the complex plane. I was confused because ##Ln(z)## is a multivalued function but apparently the way you do it is by only considering the principal branch from ##[-\pi,\pi]##.

But I don't understand this at all. I can't find the theory behind this methodology anywhere and was hoping someone could clarify it for me or at least point me towards a source.

Thanks.
 
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I think it means that you always restrict the imaginary part of the log to the range ##[-\pi,+\pi]##.

There's a formula for the principal value in the wikipedia article on Complex Logarithm.
 
Yeah it does mean that. But why choose that branch?
 
Suppose that the path we're supposed to take the integral over starts at the point ##w_0## and ends at ##w##. Obviously the path should not pass through the origin. We can take ##w_0 = r_0 e^{\theta_0}##, with ##\theta_0 \in (-\pi,\pi)##. Similarly, we will have ##w= r e^{\theta}##, with ##\theta \in (-\pi,\pi)##.

We are going to deform the original path in the following way. First we take a circular arc ##L_1## from ##w_0## to the positive real axis at ##r_0##. Then we take a real interval ##L_2## from ##r_0## to ##r##. Finally, we have another circular arc ##L_3## from the positive real axis at ##r## to the point ##w##. The arcs ##L_{1,3}## have to chosen in such a way that the deformation of the original path doesn't cross the origin (a little sketching will make this clear).

The contribution to the integral from ##L_2## is ##\pm \ln r/r_0##. The contribution from ##L_1## and ##L_3## include a term ##i\arg w_0## and ##i\arg w## respectively, but may also include some contributions ##\pm i \pi## representing the branch of the log that we had to choose depending on the relation between the original path, the origin and the part of the real axis we used for ##L_2##.

I can't upload a sketch right now, but hopefully you can follow along and make your own to see how this works.
 
I've sketched what you said but I don't see where the "contributions ##\pm i\pi ## " come from.

Doing the integral ##\int_{L_1} \frac{dz}{z} ## yields ##\ln(r_o)-\ln(r_o)-i\arg w_o ##.

What am I seeing wrong? Also I don't understand how this resolves the preference towards the branch ##(-\pi,\pi)##.
 
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I've sketched what you said but I don't see where the "contributions ##\pm i\pi ## " come from.

Doing the integral ##\int_{L_1} \frac{dz}{z} ## yields ##\ln(r_o)-\ln(r_o)-i\arg w_o ##.

What am I seeing wrong? Also I don't understand how this resolves the preference towards the branch ##(-\pi,\pi)##.

Let me choose a specific example to illustrate how we can have different contributions to the integral depending on the original path and the location of the origin.

Let ##w_0 = e^{-i3\pi/4}## and ##w = 2 e^{i\pi/4}##. So we integrate from the 3rd quadrant to the 1st quadrant and let's say we use a path on the right side of the origin. Then ##L_1## involves the counterclockwise arc ## z = e^{it}## where ## -3\pi/4 \leq t \leq 0##, so we get
$$\int_{L_1} \frac{dz}{z} = i \int_{-3\pi/4}^0 dt = 3i\pi/4. $$
##L_2## gives us ##\ln 2##, while ##L_3## gives ##i\pi/4##. So
$$I = \ln 2 + i \pi.$$

However, if the path was on the left side of the origin, we need to take ##L'_1## to be the clockwise arc from ## -3\pi/4## to ##0##. So now we get
$$\int_{L'_1} \frac{dz}{z} = i \int_{-3\pi/4}^{-\pi} dt + i \int_\pi^0 dt = -5i\pi/4. $$
The other integrals are the same, so we get
$$I = \ln 2 - i \pi.$$
So this is a different branch of the log. It's apparently not ##\pm i \pi##, but ##\pm 2i\pi##.

Note that the reason for the different answers is that the 2nd path crosses the negative real axis, so we have to choose a different branch of the log. If we put the branch cut on the negative real axis, then we have the ##(-\pi,\pi)## branch and we don't allow any integration paths to cross the negative real axis. As long as we keep to this rule, then we will only get a single value for the integration. I think this is what you wanted to see.
 
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But I thought that the branch ##(-\pi,\pi)## was the "true" one. Are all branches valid then and its just a matter of convention to choose ##(-\pi,\pi)##?
 
I mean the integral as a sort of Riemann sum should strictly be single valued shouldn't it?
 
Given a specified path, the integral is single-valued for any path that can be smoothly deformed to the original path. In the example, the second path cannot be smoothly deformed to the first path because we're not allowed to move the path through the origin. The first path doesn't cross the negative real axis, so the ##(-\pi,\pi)## branch is a valid choice. The second path does cross the negative real axis, so the integral that I did selects a different branch.

Whether or not you can use the principal branch will depend on the nature of the problem. If you can specify the problem so as to avoid the branch cut on the negative real axis, then you can probably use the principal branch. However, it may be that you can't avoid the negative real axis, like when the second path is specified in the example.
 
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Okay okay I think I get it now. I was told the branch ##(-\pi,\pi)## avoided all these problems but I don't see why, since not all paths can be smoothly deformed such that ##(-\pi,\pi)## is a valid branch. I.e. Maybe you're forced to cross the negative real axis... Right?
 
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Okay okay I think I get it now. I was told the branch ##(-\pi,\pi)## avoided all these problems but I don't see why, since not all paths can be smoothly deformed such that ##(-\pi,\pi)## is a valid branch. I.e. Maybe you're forced to cross the negative real axis... Right?

Yes, that is what I meant. Here's an example of a problem where it is easiest to put the branch cut of the logarithm on the positive real axis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methods_of_contour_integration#Example_.28IV.29_.E2.80.93_branch_cuts
 
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