Integral and cylindrical shell

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume generated by rotating a region bounded by the curves y = x^2, y = 4, and x = 0 about the y-axis, using the method of cylindrical shells. The specified range for x is from 0 to 2.

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  • Participants discuss how to determine which region to use for the volume calculation, questioning whether to consider the area above or below the curve y = x^2. There are attempts to visualize the regions and their shapes in relation to the problem. Some participants suggest focusing on the characteristics of cylindrical shells, such as the radius and height, to set up the integral.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. There is a recognition of the bounds of the curves and how they relate to the volume calculation, but no consensus has been reached on the preferred approach to take.

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Participants note the distinction between the bounds of the curves and the range of x values, which may affect the interpretation of the problem. The original poster and others express confusion about the implications of these bounds on the volume calculation.

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merced said:
Use the method of cylindrical shells to find the volume generated by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the y-axis.

y = [tex]x^2[/tex]
y = 4
x = 0

[tex]0\leq x\leq 2[/tex]

So I drew these:
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9225/math28qi.th.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/866/math21ow.th.jpg

I don't know how to determine which region to use (above or below
y =[tex]x^2[/tex]). Either seems like it will work.

Think (as the question advised) in terms of cylindrical shells (elements). You are rotating about the y-axis. What is the radius of the cylinder? What is the height? Hence determine the volume of that element, and set up the integral.
 
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merced said:
I don't know how to determine which region to use (above or below
y =[tex]x^2[/tex]). Either seems like it will work.

The region above y=x^2 is sort of in the shape of a bullet pointed straight down the y-axis, and the region below y=x^2 forms a sort of dog dish shaped object. Notice that x=2 is not a bound for the curve. Look at what does bound the curve and that is what you need to find the volume of.
 
Actually, x = 2 is a bound because 0 <= x <= 2. Yeah, the book gives the area for the top part...but I don't see why it can't be the lower part.

If it was the lower part, you still could use cylindrical shells, right?
 
merced said:
Actually, x = 2 is a bound because 0 <= x <= 2. Yeah, the book gives the area for the top part...but I don't see why it can't be the lower part.
I think I see where you are getting confused...there is a difference between what x varies over, and what the bounds are.

In this case x varies from 0 to 2. That is different from a bound. Suppose the curve y=x^2 was bounded by y=0, and x=1, but x varied from 0 to a billion? It doesn't much matter how x varies so long as the problem makes sense. In this case, x=2 is not a bound, in which case you have the curve y=x^2, y=4 and x=0 (y-axis is x=0) as bounds. Draw that region, then rotate it about the y-axis and you have your volume. Set up the integral and evaluate.
 

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