Integral of a sinc squared function over a square root function

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The discussion revolves around finding an analytical solution to the integral of a sinc squared function divided by a square root function. Participants explore various mathematical approaches and transformations related to the integral, including the implications of complex numbers and branch cuts in the context of the integral's evaluation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks an analytical solution to the integral involving the sinc squared function and expresses curiosity about similarities to another integral involving Bessel and Hankel functions.
  • Another participant raises a concern about the square root term becoming imaginary for large values of \( k_y \) and questions how to handle this situation.
  • A different participant rewrites the integral in terms of a new variable and discusses the divergence of terms in a Taylor expansion, suggesting alternative approaches to evaluate the integral.
  • One participant clarifies their treatment of the square root as a complex number, explaining the branch cuts that arise depending on the sign of \( k_x \). They describe how the square root behaves based on the relationship between \( k_y^2 \) and \( k^2 - k_x^2 \).
  • Another participant proposes a specific substitution for evaluating the integral and corrects an earlier mistake regarding the coefficient and substitution in the integral's expression.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to handle the imaginary component of the square root and the evaluation of the integral, indicating that multiple competing approaches and interpretations exist without a consensus on a definitive method.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential divergence of terms in their approaches and the implications of branch cuts in the complex plane, highlighting the complexity of the integral's evaluation without resolving these issues.

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I want to compute the integral I have posted here ( https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/spectral-domain-double-integral-with-singularities.989141/ ) This is a sub-problem of the actual problem posted there.
I want to find the analytical solution to the integral given below.

\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{ sinc^2(\frac{k_yb}{2})}{\sqrt{k^2 - k_x^2 - k_y^2}}dk_y

In other words,

\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{ \sin^2(\frac{k_yb}{2})}{(\frac{k_yb}{2})^2\sqrt{k^2 - k_x^2 - k_y^2}}dk_y

Can this be solved analytically?

I have seen that the integral \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{ J_0(\frac{k_yb}{2})}{\sqrt{k^2 - k_x^2 - k_y^2}})dk_y as \pi J_0(\frac{b}{4} \sqrt{k^2 - k_x^2}) H_0^{(2)}(\frac{b}{4} \sqrt{k^2 - k_x^2)} where J_0 is the Bessel function of the first kind of order 0 and H_0^{(2)} is the Hankel function of second kind. Is something similar there for the other integral as well?
 
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I have a question.
\sqrt{k^2-k_x^2-k_y^2}
is imaginary number for large k_y. How do you treat it?
 
The integral is rewritten as
\frac{2}{b} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \frac {1-\cos q}{q^2}\frac{1}{\sqrt{L-(\frac{q}{b})^2}} dq
=\frac{2}{b} \sum_n a_n \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \frac{q^{2n}}{\sqrt{L-(\frac{q}{b})^2}} dq
where
q=bk_y,L=k^2-k_x^2
Each term of Taylor expansion diverges so it does not go well.
Another way might be to divide it as
\frac{2}{b} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \frac {1}{q^2}\frac{1}{\sqrt{L-(\frac{q}{b})^2}} dq- \frac{2}{b} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \frac {\cos q}{q^2}\frac{1}{\sqrt{L-(\frac{q}{b})^2}} dq
and evaluate each term independently using complex integral for the latter one. But it seems to divert again.
 
anuttarasammyak said:
I have a question.
\sqrt{k^2-k_x^2-k_y^2}
is imaginary number for large k_y. How do you treat it?
Yes, I use the square root as
-j \sqrt{-(k^2 - k_x^2 - k_y^2)}. So, the branch cut appears from INF to -k when real(k_x) is < 0. The other half of the branch cut is from -INF to +k when real(k_x) > 0.

In other words, the square root function makes sure that when k_y^2 &gt; (k^2 - k_x^2), the value of remains purely negative imaginary and when k_y^2 &lt; (k^2 - k_x^2), the value remains purely positive real.
 
So,
I = 4 \int_{0}^{+\infty} \frac{1-\cos q}{q^2 \sqrt{A^2-q^2}}dq
where
q=bk_y,\ A^2=b^2(k^2-k_x^2),A&gt;0
I = 4 \int_{0}^{A} \frac{1-\cos q}{q^2 \sqrt{A^2-q^2}}dq-4i \int_{A}^{+\infty} \frac{1-\cos q}{q^2 \sqrt{q^2-A^2}}dq
How about trying substitution
q=A \sin \theta for the first integral and
q=A \tan \thetafor the second one ?
 
EDIT to post #5

The coefficient of the second integral in RHS is not ##- 4i## but ##+4i## and substitution in it is not ##q=A \tan \theta## but ##q=A \sec \theta##.
 
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