Integral of (Force * Velocity).

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The problem involves a particle moving in the x-y plane with given velocity components and a force that is proportional to its velocity. The task is to evaluate the integral of the dot product of force and velocity over a specified time interval and to interpret the physical meaning of the result.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of the force vector and its relationship to velocity. There are attempts to express force in terms of velocity, and questions arise regarding the proportionality of force to velocity. Some participants also explore the physical significance of the integral, relating it to work done.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the assumptions about the relationship between force and velocity. Some have provided expressions for force based on their interpretations, while others are seeking clarification on the physical implications of the integral.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the exact form of the force vector and its proportionality to velocity, as well as the implications of the integral in terms of physical concepts like work.

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Homework Statement



A particle moves in the x-y plane having the components of its velocity to be:

x = 64\sqrt{3}t and y = 64t - 16t^2,

and a force acting on this particle is proportional to its velocity. Find:

\int(F \cdot V)dt

from t = 0 to t = 4. Give a physical meaning to your result.



Homework Equations



Not sure.



The Attempt at a Solution



I'm having a hard time getting started here, because I don't know what F is. I've got:

V = (64\sqrt{3}t)i + (64t - 16t^2)j,

right? But I don't know what to dot it with inside the integral. I'm not looking for a total solution here, I'm just wondering if someone can quickly tell me what exactly F is. I should be ok from there.

If F is proportional to V, do I just set

F = (64a\sqrt{3}t)i + (64at - 16at^2)j

for some unknown constant a?

Thanks.
 
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So, if I set F equal to what I stated above, I get an answer of:

\int( F \cdot V ) dt = \int(16384 a t^2 - 2048 a t^3 + 256 a t^4)dt = (4063232 a)/15

I don't even know what to make of that...
 
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Why would the force be proportional to the velocity?
You know (I hope) that F=m*a.
And acceleration is the derivative of velocity, isn't it?

The significance of the integral... v*dt is ds (distance). Force time distance = ?
 
nasu said:
Why would the force be proportional to the velocity?
You know (I hope) that F=m*a.
And acceleration is the derivative of velocity, isn't it?

The significance of the integral... v*dt is ds (distance). Force times distance = ?

Force times Distance equals Work
 
nasu said:
Why would the force be proportional to the velocity?
Because it's a given in the problem.
You know (I hope) that F=m*a.
And acceleration is the derivative of velocity, isn't it?

The significance of the integral... v*dt is ds (distance). Force time distance = ?
 

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