Integral of mean curvature function

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the evaluation of an integral involving the mean curvature function, specifically in the context of differential geometry and its applications in physics. Participants explore the relationship between this integral and Gaussian curvature, as well as the implications of surface symmetries on the computation of the integral.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on evaluating the integral of mean curvature over a surface, specifically asking for methods or references.
  • Another participant suggests that if the surface has symmetry (spherical or cylindrical), appropriate coordinate systems can simplify the integration process.
  • A different viewpoint proposes a connection between the integral and Gaussian curvature, indicating that the integral may be expressed in terms of the Laplace-Beltrami operator.
  • One participant raises a concern about the need to extend the mean curvature to the interior of the volume bounded by the surface to apply Stokes' theorem effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the integral and Gaussian curvature, as well as the application of Stokes' theorem. There is no consensus on the best approach to evaluate the integral or the necessary conditions for its computation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential limitations regarding the assumptions needed for applying Stokes' theorem and the specific conditions under which the integral can be evaluated, such as surface symmetry and the extension of mean curvature.

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Hello everyone,
I am self teaching some elementary notions of differential geometry. Rather, I should say I am concentrating on mean and gaussian curvature concepts related to a physics application I am interested in. I see one has to evaluate an integral that goes as:

[tex]\int_{\partial\Omega}\kappa\hat{n}\cdot d\vec{r}[/tex]

-where [tex]\hat{n}[/tex] denotes the unit normal vector to the surface [tex]\partial\Omega[/tex]. The integral is done over all the points [tex]\vec{r}[/tex] on the surface. Can anyone tell if there is a prescription to evaluate such integrals as this? If some reference is cited, that will also be helpful.

-Neel
 
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You mean "how do we compute this?" ??

If the surface has some nice symmetry spherical or cylindrical symmetry like if it's a conic (ellipsoid, paraboloid, wheteveroid), then you can use the relevant coordinate system (spherical or cylindrical) to integrate.
 
Well, of course you are right...But, what I was expecting is a bit different...I was wondering if this integral could somehow be related to Gaussian curvature. The physics motivation is that for some specific type of surfaces, the integral which apparently may also be written as:
[tex]\int\nabla_{LB}\vec{r}(u,v)\cdot d\vec{r}(u,v)[/tex]

should contain Gaussian curvature. Here [tex]\nabla_{LB}[/tex] is the Laplace-Beltrami operator.
 
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I think you need to extend the mean curvature of the surface to the interior of the volume that it bounds. Otherwise I am not sure how you would use Stokes theorem.
 

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