What does the circle in the integral sign signify?

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The discussion centers around the meaning of the circular integral sign, specifically in the context of line integrals and their relationship to standard integrals. Participants explore the definitions and implications of line integrals, particularly when the path of integration is closed.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the meaning of the integral sign with a circle, suggesting it may indicate a line integral.
  • One participant explains that a line integral is a generalization of a "normal integral," emphasizing that integration can occur along various paths, not just the x-axis.
  • Another participant clarifies that a line integral is not necessarily the same as the integral of a function around a closed loop, noting that it can be defined along any path between two points.
  • It is mentioned that the circular integral sign indicates that the path of integration is closed, but this does not change the fundamental nature of the integral itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between line integrals and standard integrals, with some asserting that they are fundamentally the same while others highlight distinctions based on the nature of the paths involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise implications of the circular integral sign.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions about the definitions of "normal integrals" and "line integrals" that may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of what constitutes a closed path in the context of integration.

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what does that sign mean? a integral sign with a circle on it.
 
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so this line integral is the same as a normal integral?
 
Originally posted by Ambitwistor
A line integral is performed not over the entire domain of the integrand, but only over a one-dimensional subspace of the domain (a closed curve).

A "normal" integral need not be performed over the entire domain of the integrand, either.

Originally posted by PrudensOptimus
so this line integral is the same as a normal integral?

By "normal integral" I take you to mean "integral along the x-axis".

A line integral is a generalization of a "normal integral". Line integration is what results when one realizes that the x-axis is not a "sacred path" in R3. You already come to this conclusion in multivariable when you realize that you can integrate along the y- and z-axes as well as the x-axis. But you take this notion further in line integration when you remove the restriction that the path of integration be a straight line.

The so-called "normal integral" is a line integral. The "line" is just the x-axis. If you want the "normal" analog to the closed path integral, then you can integrate your function from a to b, and then add to it the integral of the same function from b to a.
 
I will also point out that a "line integral" is NOT the same as "the integral of a function around a closed loop in the domain of the function".

A line integral is the integral of a function of 2 or more independent variables along a given path between 2 points in the domain of definition. You can write the one-dimensional path in terms of parametric equations in one parameter, write the function, restricted to that path, in terms of that parameter and integrate that in exactly the way you do "normal integrals" (of one variable).

Such a path does not HAVE TO BE closed. If it is, then you have the integral symbolized by the "integral sign with a circle on it".
 
Everywhere you see it, the symbol \oint may be replaced with \int with no change in meaning. The circle is only there to emphasize the fact that the path (or surface or whatever) you are integrating over is closed.
 

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