Integrate this function over the volume of a sphere sphere

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The problem involves integrating the Laplacian of the function \(\frac{1}{|\underline{r} - \underline{r}'|}\) over the volume of a sphere, utilizing the divergence theorem. The context is rooted in vector calculus and the properties of Dirac delta functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the divergence theorem to transform the volume integral into a surface integral. They express uncertainty about the setup and the dot product involved.
  • Some participants question the relationship between the radius vector and the normal vector on the sphere's surface, leading to simplifications in the expressions.
  • Further attempts involve expressing the denominator in terms of cosine and considering substitutions for the integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions for simplifying the expressions. There is a collaborative exploration of the integral's components, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach to solving the integral.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the integral and the need for careful consideration of the geometry involved. The original poster expresses confusion about the steps, indicating a potential gap in understanding the application of the divergence theorem in this context.

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Homework Statement




Integrate \nabla^{2} (\frac{1}{|\underline{r} - \underline{r}'|}) over the volume of a sphere using the divergence theorem.

Homework Equations



\nabla^{2} (\frac{1}{|\underline{r} - \underline{r}'|}) = -4\pi\delta^{(3)}(\underline{r} - \underline{r}') (i.e. it's a dirac delta function, this just tells me that the answer I should get if I integrate over the volume is -4\pi)


\nabla^{} (\frac{1}{|\underline{r} - \underline{r}'|}) = -\frac{(\underline{r} - \underline{r}')}{|\underline{r} - \underline{r}'|^{3}}


\underline{r} = (x,y,z)

\underline{r'} = (x',y',z') (note that the dashes do not mean the differential of, just a different point in space from x,y,z).




And the divergence theorem

The Attempt at a Solution



\int_{V'}\nabla^{2} (\frac{1}{|\underline{r} - \underline{r}'|} )dV'

=
\int_{S'}\nabla (\frac{1}{|\underline{r} - \underline{r}'|} ) \circ d\underline{S}' (by the divergence theorem)

d\underline{S}' = \hat{\underline{n}} dS'

dS' = R^{2}sin(\theta)d\theta d\phi

I guess R should be the radius of the sphere. In which case I choose r' = R?

= \int_{S'}-\frac{(\underline{r} - \underline{r}')}{|\underline{r} - \underline{r}'|^{3}} \circ d\underline{S}'

Then, putting r' = R


\int_{S'}-\frac{(\underline{r} - \underline{R})}{|\underline{r} - \underline{R}|^{3}} \circ \hat{\underline{n}} dS'

=


\int^{2\pi}_{0} \int^{\pi}_{0} -(\frac{(\underline{r} - \underline{R})}{|\underline{r} - \underline{R}|^{3}} \circ \hat{\underline{n}}) R^{2}sin(\theta)d\theta d\phi


Am I right so far? This looks like a complete mess, and I'm not sure what to do with the dot product of the vector and the normal vector?
 
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Whats the direction of the radius vector compared to the normal vector on the surface of the sphere? ;)
 
Thaakisfox said:
Whats the direction of the radius vector compared to the normal vector on the surface of the sphere? ;)

Cheers. Clearly they are in the same direction, so I can make the simplification \underline{R} \circ \hat{\underline{n}} = R

Then maybe with \underline{r} \circ \hat{\underline{n}} I can turn it into rcos(\theta)

Thus - (\underline{r} - \underline{R}) \circ \hat{\underline{n}} becomes

R - rcos(\theta)

Then what though? I guess I could turn the denominator into

(r^{2} + R^{2} - 2Rrcos(\theta))^{3/2} by the cosine rule, but then I get, overall;
\int^{2\pi}_{0} \int^{\pi}_{0} (\frac{R - rcos(\theta)}{(r^{2} + R^{2} - 2Rrcos(\theta))^{3/2}}) R^{2}sin(\theta)d\theta d\phi

But how would I do that integral with respect to theta?
 
yes very good. Now put x=\cos\theta. And separate the integrands.

Note that: \frac{d}{dx}(r^2+R^2-2Rrx)^{-1/2}) =\frac{-Rr}{(r^2+R^2-2Rrx)^{3/2}}
 

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