Integrating 1/(1-x^2)^(1/2) using Substitution and Understanding Constant C

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The discussion revolves around integrating the function 1/(1-x^2)^(1/2) with respect to x, exploring various substitution methods including trigonometric and hyperbolic functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using substitutions such as x = sin(u) and x = cos(u), leading to arcsin(x) and -arccos(x) respectively. There is confusion regarding the constants of integration and their implications on the equality of the results. Another substitution, x = tanh(u), is also explored, with participants questioning the subsequent steps and transformations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights about the relationships between different integral forms and discussing the complexities that arise from various substitutions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the identity involving hyperbolic functions, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach or final expressions.

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There is an acknowledgment of potential mistakes in the application of substitutions, and participants are reflecting on the implications of these errors on their results. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the constants of integration in relation to different forms of the integral.

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I'm trying to integrate \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} with respect to x, using an appropriate substitution

I've tried using:

x = sin(u) which leads me to the integral being arcsin(x) + c
x = cos(u) which leads me to the integral being -arccos(x) + c

however I have drawn arcsin(x) and -arccos(x) and they are not the same, is this because of the constant C? I.e the constant is not necessarily the same in both of the integrals? (The graphs are on *close*.

Also, I've tried using the substitution x = tanh(u), this lead me to \displaystyle\int \dfrac{sech^2u}{1-sech^2u}\ du, where can I go from here?
 
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phospho said:
I'm trying to integrate \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} with respect to x, using an appropriate substitution

I've tried using:

x = sin(u) which leads me to the integral being arcsin(x) + c
x = cos(u) which leads me to the integral being -arccos(x) + c

however I have drawn arcsin(x) and -arccos(x) and they are not the same, is this because of the constant C? I.e the constant is not necessarily the same in both of the integrals? (The graphs are on *close*.
Yes, you're right. It's the constant. With the correct choices, those two expressions are equal.

Also, I've tried using the substitution x = tanh(u), this lead me to \displaystyle\int \dfrac{sech^2u}{1-sech^2u}\ du, where can I go from here?
You have the identity ##\cosh^2 u - \sinh^2 u = 1##. You should be able to show the denominator is equal to ##\tanh^2 u##.
 
vela said:
Yes, you're right. It's the constant. With the correct choices, those two expressions are equal.


You have the identity ##\cosh^2 u - \sinh^2 u = 1##. You should be able to show the denominator is equal to ##\tanh^2 u##.

thanks,

for the substitution of x = tanh(u) I seem to have gone wrong some where and I do not end up with what I originally posted:

x = tanh(u)
\dfrac{dx}{du} = sech^2u
\displaystyle\int \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}\ dx = \displaystyle\int \dfrac{sech^2u}{\sqrt{1 - tanh^2u}}\ du = \displaystyle\int sech(u)\ du now I can integrate sech(u) by using the exponential form, however this becomes messy and I end up getting something more complex.
 
I should have looked at your work more carefully. I didn't notice the mistake either.

You can get quite different looking expressions that at first glance don't appear to be equal, but you can eventually show that they are.
 
phospho said:
now I can integrate sech(u) by using the exponential form, however this becomes messy and I end up getting something more complex.
I found ##\int \text{sech }u\,du = \tan^{-1} \sinh u## while Mathematica gave me ##\int \text{sech }u\,du = 2\tan^{-1} \tanh(u/2)##. If you plug in ##u=\tanh^{-1} x##, you get expressions which don't seem to be equal to arcsin x, but in fact they are, which you can see by plotting the functions.
 
vela said:
I found ##\int \text{sech }u\,du = \tan^{-1} \sinh u## while Mathematica gave me ##\int \text{sech }u\,du = 2\tan^{-1} \tanh(u/2)##. If you plug in ##u=\tanh^{-1} x##, you get expressions which don't seem to be equal to arcsin x, but in fact they are, which you can see by plotting the functions.

Thanks for your help!
 

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