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The discussion revolves around the integration of complex and imaginary functions, exploring both theoretical aspects and practical applications. Participants inquire about the methods of integration, the nature of results, and the properties of imaginary numbers.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about integrating complex or pure imaginary functions, suggesting a method of separating real and imaginary parts for integration.
  • Another participant explains the substitution of complex variables and the importance of the path chosen for integration, noting that results can vary based on this path unless certain conditions are met.
  • A participant confirms that the definite integral of an analytic function over a closed curve can yield a real number, while also stating that positive and negative distinctions do not apply to complex numbers.
  • Further inquiry is made about the possibility of defining positive and negative for imaginary numbers, with responses indicating that the complex numbers do not form an ordered field.
  • Another participant clarifies that while order can be defined for pure imaginary numbers, it is not commonly utilized in practice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods of integration and the properties of complex functions, but there is disagreement regarding the definition of positivity and negativity in the context of imaginary numbers.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of path dependence in complex integration and the limitations of defining order among complex numbers, highlighting the nuances in the mathematical framework.

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This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners interested in complex analysis, particularly those exploring integration techniques and the properties of complex and imaginary numbers.

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I feel ashamed asking this, but how do you take the integral of a complex or pure imaginary function?

My sheer guess is that you take the real parts of the function and integrate them separately, then take the imaginary part and integrate it, but I don't quite know how to do that last part.

Also, can the definite integral of a complex or imaginary function ever be a real number? Does any function have a derivative or integral of i? And just to finish this up, is i positive or negative?
 
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Generally,we substiute the z=x+iy into f(z) and transform it to f(x+iy)=u(x,y)+iv(x,y).So is the dz=dx+idy.Then,we must choose a path connecting A point with B point on the complex plane.Finally,calculate f(z) along the path as you have done in line integrals.However,the result for the same f(z) depends on the path you have choose,that is to say, we can get different results.
If the f(z) is analytical function satisfying Cauchy-Riemann condition, and the path is close ( we may call it contour ,this is the usual condition we face!),the result is generally unique.To work out it,we use the Cauchy formula or theorem of residues.
 
Also, can the definite integral of a complex or imaginary function ever be a real number?

Yes. The integral of an analytic function on a (suitably nice) closed curve is zero.

is i positive or negative?

Positive and negative are not defined for complex numbers.

I will not that Dyson does a nice job outlining the basic idea of a contour integral. More generally, we may integrate any complex-valued function on a measure space by breaking it into its real and imaginary parts exactly as you describe.
 
Thank you for your help, I can see that my intuition was correct.

If I may ask, is there a separate positive and negative for imaginary numbers, such as 3i being positive while -27i is negative?
 
No, C is not an ordered field, so you can't define positive numbers or negative numbers.
On the imaginary axis you can define order, since it resembles the real axis, but rarely one speak only of the imaginary axis.
 
So you can define order for pure imaginaries?
 
Yes, it simply the order between the real numbers that multiplies the imaginary unit.

But as I said, I can't find any use in working just in the imaginary axis. (Note that the group of pure imaginaries isn't even closed under multiplication)
 

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