Integrating Factor: Homework Help

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The discussion revolves around understanding the integration of factors in differential equations, specifically focusing on the manipulation of derivatives and the application of the chain rule. Participants are exploring the transition from a differential equation to its logarithmic form.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how the expression ln |u(t)| is derived from the first equation, questioning whether they are treating the derivative as a fraction. Other participants discuss the notation used in differential equations and the implications of treating derivatives in Leibniz notation.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the notation and reasoning behind the steps in solving the differential equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the separation of variables technique, and there is an exploration of differing perspectives on the notation used.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the treatment of derivatives and the notation in the context of standard techniques taught in differential equations courses. The discussion reflects varying opinions on the clarity and appropriateness of the notation used.

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hello, I was reading through the textbook and I have a hard time to understand this part:
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haven't been dealing with derivatives for a while, i don't understand how it got ln |u(t)| from the first equation.
Am I treating the derivative as a fraction here? how does u(t)/u(t) = ln |u(t)| ?

any help is greatly appreciated
 
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The first equation is more usually written: $$\frac{1}{\mu}\frac{d\mu}{dt} = \frac{1}{2}$$ ... that help?
The ##\ln|\mu|## part comes from the chain rule.

I think the author is specifically trying not to treat the Leibnitz notation as a fraction, since the usual way to proceed from (1) would be to write: $$\frac{d\mu}{\mu} = \frac{dt}{2}$$ ... which is considered sloppy notation.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
The first equation is more usually written: $$\frac{1}{\mu}\frac{d\mu}{dt} = \frac{1}{2}$$ ... that help?
The ##\ln|\mu|## part comes from the chain rule.

I think the author is specifically trying not to treat the Leibnitz notation as a fraction, since the usual way to proceed from (1) would be to write: $$\frac{d\mu}{\mu} = \frac{dt}{2}$$ ... which is considered sloppy notation.
"Sloppy" is in the eye of the beholder. The differential equation in the first paragraph above is separable, as can be seen in the equation immediately above. Separation of variables is a standard technique in solving differential equations. In this technique, which is one of the first taught in a course on ODE, derivatives in Leibniz form are treated as fractions.

The next step is to integrate both sides, which yields ##\ln|\mu| = \frac 1 2 t + C##.
 
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It's the way that produces the fewer headaches.
 
Simon Bridge said:
It's the way that produces the fewer headaches.
At the very least, that's debatable. If, for example, ##y = t^2##, then we can write the derivative of y with respect to t as ##\frac{dy}{dt} = 2t## or we can write the differential of y as ##dy = 2t~dt##. The latter form is used all the time in substitutions for integration problems.

Also, as I mentioned before, separation of variables is a standard technique in virtually all differential equations textbooks, and one that is usually the first technique presented.
 
I was unclear - I was agreeing with you.
 

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