Integrating $\frac{x}{y}$ & $(xy)^3$ - Get Help Now!

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The discussion revolves around the integration of two expressions: $\int \left(\frac{x}{y}\right) d\left(\frac{x}{y}\right)$ and $\int \frac{d(xy)}{(xy)^3}$. Participants are seeking assistance with the integration process and the treatment of the variables involved.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to integrate $\frac{x}{y}$ and $(xy)^3$, despite being able to integrate simpler forms.
  • Another participant suggests letting $u = \frac{x}{y}$ and proposes that $\int u \, d(u) = u = \frac{x}{y}$.
  • A further contribution indicates that the integral $\int u \, du$ should yield $\frac{1}{2}u^2 + C$.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their earlier reasoning regarding the integration process.
  • Another participant offers reassurance about making mistakes in mathematics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the integration of the second expression, and there is ongoing uncertainty regarding the correct approach to both integrals.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects concerning the treatment of the variables in the integrals, and the assumptions behind the integration techniques are not fully explored.

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how would you integrate

1. $\displaystyle \int \left(\frac{x}{y}\right) d\left(\frac{x}{y}\right)$

2. $\displaystyle \int \frac{d(xy)}{(xy)^3}$

if the two is just in this form I could easily answer it

$\displaystyle \int d\left(\frac{x}{y}\right)=(\frac{x}{y})$

$\displaystyle \int d(xy)=(xy)$

but I don't know how to treat $\frac{x}{y}$ in 1 and the $(xy)^3$ in 2.

please help!
 
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paulmdrdo said:
how would you integrate

1. $\displaystyle \int \left(\frac{x}{y}\right) d\left(\frac{x}{y}\right)$

2. $\displaystyle \int \frac{d(xy)}{(xy)^3}$

if the two is just in this form I could easily answer it

$\displaystyle \int d\left(\frac{x}{y}\right)=(\frac{x}{y})$

$\displaystyle \int d(xy)=(xy)$

but I don't know how to treat $\frac{x}{y}$ in 1 and the $(xy)^3$ in 2.

please help!

Hello.

1) \ u=\dfrac{x}{y}

\displaystyle \int u \ d(u)=u= \dfrac{x}{y}

2) \ u=(xy)

\displaystyle \int \dfrac{d(u)}{u^3}=?

Can you follow?

Regards.
 
mente oscura said:
Hello.

1) \ u=\dfrac{x}{y}

\displaystyle \int u \ d(u)=u= \dfrac{x}{y}

What we want here is:

$$\int u\,du=\frac{1}{2}u^2+C$$
 
MarkFL said:
What we want here is:

$$\int u\,du=\frac{1}{2}u^2+C$$

Right. I I'm wrong.

I wrote:

\int u\,du

And I thought in:

\int \,du

(Headbang)(Headbang)(Headbang)

I'm sorry.

Regards.
 
Hey, we all make mistakes...I know I have made my share! (Emo)
 

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