Integrating the generator lines of an elliptical orbit

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The discussion revolves around the integration of generator lines of an elliptical orbit, specifically focusing on the integral of the expression \(\int^{2\pi}_{0}(x+y)\,d\theta\), where \(x\) and \(y\) represent the generator lines of the ellipse, and \(a\) is the semimajor axis. Participants explore the integration process without expressing \(x\) and \(y\) in terms of \(\theta\).

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about integrating \((x+y)\) with respect to \(\theta\) without converting it into a function of \(\theta\).
  • Another participant explains that constants can be factored out of the integral, illustrating this with the integral of \(2a\) over the interval from \(0\) to \(2\pi\).
  • A third participant reiterates the initial confusion regarding the integration process and seeks further clarification.
  • One participant shares their inspiration from reading literature related to mathematics and expresses concern about their mathematical background.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the integration method, as some express confusion while others provide explanations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the integration of the expression without expressing it in terms of \(\theta\).

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the challenge of integrating constants without expressing them in terms of the variable of integration, indicating a potential gap in understanding the relationship between the variables involved.

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Hi,
I am having difficulty understanding the following:

[itex]\int^{2π}_{0}(x+y)\,dθ[/itex] = [itex]\int^{2π}_{0} 2a\,dθ[/itex] = [itex]\textbf{4}πa[/itex]

where x and y are the generator lines of an elipse, a is the semimajor axis and θ is the angle formed by x and the major axis.

I understand that x+y = 2a. However I don't understand how to integrate with respect to θ without expressing (x+y) or 2a in terms of θ.

Any help would be much appreciated.
 
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The integral of a constant, such as 2a, with respect to any differential, dx, is that constant times the variable x. Normally, [itex]\int C dx= Cx[/itex] (plus a constant of integration) is one of the first integral facts one learns in Calculus.
 
Appleton said:
Hi,
I am having difficulty understanding the following:

[itex]\int^{2π}_{0}(x+y)\,dθ[/itex] = [itex]\int^{2π}_{0} 2a\,dθ[/itex] = [itex]\textbf{4}πa[/itex]

where x and y are the generator lines of an elipse, a is the semimajor axis and θ is the angle formed by x and the major axis.

I understand that x+y = 2a. However I don't understand how to integrate with respect to θ without expressing (x+y) or 2a in terms of θ.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Because 2a and (x + y) are not the variables of integration, they are treated as constants and can thus be pulled out of the integral.

##\displaystyle \int_{0}^{2 \pi} 2a \ d\theta = 2a \int_{0}^{2 \pi} \ d\theta = \Bigl.2a \theta \ \Bigr|_{\theta = 0}^{\theta = 2 \pi} = 4 \pi a##
 
Thanks for the help. I stumbled into this whilst reading "Gamma, exploring Euler's constant". I was inspired to get this after reading John Derbyshire's "Unknown Quantity, a real and imagined history of Algebra" which I found hugely illuminating. However as someone who only studied maths until 16 I feel I may have bitten off more than I can chew with this new book.
 

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