Integrating with ln in denominator.

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The problem involves integrating a function with a logarithmic term in the denominator, specifically the integral \(\int \frac{1}{n(1 + \ln{n})^{2/3}} dn\). The context is calculus, focusing on integration techniques and convergence of series.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster considers using a substitution involving \(\ln(n)\) but expresses concern about how it might complicate the integration process due to its presence in the denominator. Other participants suggest a substitution approach and provide alternative variable transformations.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different substitution methods and discussing the implications of these substitutions on the integration process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the substitution, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions that this integral is part of a series check for convergence or divergence, indicating the limits of integration extend from zero to infinity. There is also a sense of fatigue expressed by the original poster after several hours of homework.

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Ok, so it's been a while since I've had to integrate anything, much less something like this.

\int \frac{1}{n(1 + \ln{n})^{2/3}} dn

I'm thinking u substition for ln(n) and then du becomes 1/n? But, since the ln(n) is in the denominator of a fraction raised to a power, wouldn't that mess with du? Or am I on the right track? I checked my calculus book and surfed the web, and couldn't find an integral for ln, so I can't see any other way...

If it helps, this is for a series check by integration to see if it's convergant or divergant, so it goes from nothing to infinity.
 
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Substitute u = ln(n), then substitute 1+u = v^3, and you simply have the integral of 3 dv
 
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You've got the right idea. Remember, a substitution is just that, substituting in another number or variable, so why would you be worried? :smile:
 
Because these things take a LONG time, and then I don't even know if I have the right answer unless I get stuck (then I know it's wrong).

Thanks. I'll play around with that tomorrow. I've been doing my homework for like 3 hours now, so I think I'll go to bed. :)
 
Also, remember that you can always check your answer by taking the derivative of your answer and seeing if it turns out to be the integrand

EDIT: Just by looking at it, it seems that your answer will be very straighforward and take very little steps to arrive at.

EDIT2: koroljov: you shouldn't simply provide the answer in such a situation.
 
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