Integrating x*(1/2b)*exp(-abs(x-a)/b) - Solution

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function x*(1/2b)*exp(-abs(x-a)/b), focusing on techniques for finding an anti-derivative and handling the absolute value in the expression. Participants explore integration methods, including integration by parts and the implications of the absolute value function, as well as considerations for evaluating the integral over infinite intervals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to approach the integration, suggesting it may involve integration by parts.
  • Another participant reformulates the integral to clarify its structure, confirming the expression includes the absolute value function.
  • A suggestion is made to simplify the integral based on the definition of the absolute value function, leading to two cases depending on whether x-a is non-negative or negative.
  • One participant indicates they are unsure how to handle the absolute value in the integration process.
  • A later reply proposes a method for evaluating the integral from negative infinity to positive infinity by considering two separate intervals.
  • Another participant mentions they have not dealt with improper integrals but suggests integrating over two distinct intervals as a potential approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for handling the absolute value in the integral or on the specifics of evaluating the improper integral, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions.

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Participants express varying levels of familiarity with improper integrals and the implications of the absolute value function, which may affect their approaches to the problem.

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integral of x*(1/2b)*exp(-abs(x-a)/b)

sorry about the format, I don't know how to use the signs.

this looks like an integration by parts, but I'm not really seeing how to work it out

thanks!
 
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Would that be something like:
[tex]\int{x}\frac{1}{2b}e^{-\frac{|x-a|}{b}}dx[/tex]??
 
Exactly. Thanks.
 
Can you pinpoint the problem or problems you have in finding an anti-derivative to that function?
 
A helpful advice is to look at the DEFINITION of the absolute value function:
|y|=y if y>=0 and |y|=-y if y<0

Thus, for x-a>=0 (i.e, x>=a), we may simplify:
[tex]\int{x}\frac{1}{2b}e^{-\frac{|x-a|}{b}}dx=\int{x}\frac{1}{2b}e^{-\frac{x-a}{b}}dx=\frac{1}{2}e^{\frac{a}{b}}\int\frac{x}{b}e^{-\frac{x}{b}}dx=\frac{b}{2}\int{u}e^{-u}du,u=\frac{x}{b}[/tex]
This is fairly trivial to anti-differentiate.

Make similar simplifications for the case x-a<0.
 
I'm not really sure how to deal with the absolute value
 
oh ok thanks
 
how would I got about finding the value of the integral from negative infinity to positive infinity if I have 2 different expressions depending on the value of x-a?
 
nevermind, i got it
 
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I haven't dealt with improper integrals yet, but my guess would be to integrate it over two separate intervals. One from negative infinite to 0 and the other from 0 to positive infinite.
 

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