Integration by parts - Does this make sense?

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The discussion focuses on the application of integration by parts (IBP) to the integral of the function \(\int x^5 e^{5x}dx\). The correct approach involves setting \(u = x^5\) and \(dv = e^{5x}dx\), leading to the reduction of the power of \(x\) with each iteration of IBP. The user initially attempted to differentiate and integrate separately, which was not effective. The proper method requires repeating the IBP process five times to ultimately simplify the integral.

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I'm confused. I was making up some of my own problems involving higher powers of x to integrate. For example:

\displaystyle\int x^5 e^{5x}dx

I set about going about finding \frac{dy}{dx} up to \frac{d^6y}{dx^6}.

u=x^5
\frac{du}{dx}=5x^4
\frac{d^2u}{dx^2}=20x^3
\frac{d^3u}{dx^3}=60x^2
\frac{d^4u}{dx^4}=120x
\frac{d^5u}{dx^5}=120
\frac{d^6u}{dx^6}=0

Conversely I found v=\displaystyle\int \frac{dv}{dx}=\displaystyle\int e^{5x}dx=\frac{1}{5}e^{5x} + C_1 up to\displaystyle\int \displaystyle\int \displaystyle\int \displaystyle\int \displaystyle\int e^{5x}dx=\frac{1}{3125}e^{5x} + C_5

I'm not even sure if you can write 5 integrals next to each other. If not, what's the correct notation?

Anyway, I then substituted the above values into the IBP formula:

\displaystyle\int u\frac{dv}{dx}dx=uv - \displaystyle\intv\frac{du}{dx}dx

\displaystyle\int x^5e^{5x}dx=\frac{1}{5}x^5e^5x-[\displaystyle\int x^4e^{5x}dx]

\frac{1}{5}x^5e^{5x}=[\displaystyle\int \frac{5}{4}x^4e^{5x}dx]=\frac{5}{25}x^4e^{5x} - \displaystyle\int \frac{20}{25}x^3e^{5x}dx

\frac{1}{5}x^5e^{5x}-\frac{5}{25}x^4e^{5x}= [\displaystyle\int \frac{20}{25}x^3e^{5x}dx]=\frac{20}{125}x^3e^{5x}- [\displaystyle\int \frac{60}{125}x^2e^{5x}dx]... You get the idea.

It's kind of like reduction, reducing the integral to obtain an answer if that makes sense?

Anyway, if there's an easier way to integrate higher powers of x using IBP I'd like to know.

There's a pattern there but I can't uncover it. Sort of like the Binomial expansion, same principle it seems.

Thanks! :)

My working will help too.

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Look at http://math.ucsd.edu/~wgarner/math20b/int_by_parts.htm

Scroll down a little to see an example similar to yours.
 
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I'm not clear why you were doing all that. Differentiating x^5 and integrating e^{5x} separately doesn't help you a whole lot in integrating their product. Instead, use "integration by parts" as suggested in your title (what you did was NOT integration by parts). And do it 5 times.

1) Let u= x^5 and dv= e^{5x}dx. Then du= 5x^4dx and v= (1/5)e^{5x}dx so
\int udv= uv- \int vdu
\int x^5e^{5x}dx= (1/5)x^5e^{5x}- \int x^4e^{5x}dx
and you have reduced the power of x to 4.

2) Let u= x^4 and dv= e^{5x}dx. Then du= 4x^3dx and v= (1/5)e^{5x}. Now the integral is
\int x^5e^{5x}dx= (1/5)x^5e^{5x}- ((1/5)x^4e^{5x}- (4/5)\int x^3e^{5x}dx
= (1/5)x^4e^{5x}- (1/5)x^4e^{5x}+ (4/5)\int x^3e^{5x}dx
where you have reduce the power of x to 3.

Continue until you reduce the power of x to 0 and then integrate the exponential.
 

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