Integration by Parts guidelines

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the guidelines and strategies for performing integration by parts, a technique used in calculus. Participants share their experiences, methods, and preferences regarding the selection of the components u and dv in the integration process.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using the LIATE or LIPET acronyms to determine the order of choosing u and dv, emphasizing that logarithmic and inverse trigonometric functions should generally be chosen first.
  • Others propose that the easiest function to integrate should be selected as dv, while the more complex function should be u, to simplify the resulting integral.
  • A participant mentions that if the derivative of e^x is involved, it may complicate the integral, suggesting that the derivative of x should be in the final integral instead.
  • Some participants express that if unsure, trying both choices for u and dv can help identify which leads to a simpler integral.
  • One participant points out that integration by parts is typically applicable when a product is present in the integrand, and simple u substitution does not suffice.
  • A few participants caution against increasing the power of x unnecessarily when selecting u, as this can complicate the integration process.
  • There is mention of alternative methods, such as substitution, in specific cases where integration by parts may not be appropriate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of strategies and preferences for choosing u and dv, with no clear consensus on a single method. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best approach to integration by parts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the effectiveness of the chosen method may depend on the specific integral being evaluated, and that certain strategies may not always yield a simpler integral.

Who May Find This Useful

Students learning integration techniques, educators teaching calculus, and individuals seeking to understand different approaches to integration by parts may find this discussion beneficial.

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I've been trying to find this online, but I haven't been able to find any site that really explains it: when performing integration by parts, is there some rule or set of guidelines to determine which part of the equation is u and which is dv?
 
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Check out PatrickJMT on youtube, he explains it in a couple of videos.
 
For the most part, you want identify which part of integration you want to pull the derivative off of. For example if you have something like integrating Ln[x]x^2, it'd be very convenient to pull off a derivative from x^2 and put it on the natural log to turn it into a \frac{1}{x} which makes the integration much easier.
 
my calculus teacher said save the easiest part of the integral that you can still integrate for "dv" and use the rest for the "u". my textbook has more about that, and I'll get back to you later on it.
 
There are a couple of ways to look at it. If you want a general strategy, try LIATE.

Logarithms
Inverse trig
Algebraic
Trigonometric
Exponential.

Let u=whichever expression comes first in your integrand; then let dv=the next.

Ex:

<br /> <br /> \int(2x\*\sin(x))dx<br /> <br />

let u=2x (because it is algebraic) and dv=\sin(x)dx (because it is trigonometric)

LIATE won't always work; it's just a nice first try type of strategy. However, I prefer to think of it this way:

I choose the easiest function to integrate to be dv, and everything else to be differentiated because differentiation is easy and integration is harder. I can differentiate anything, but I can't integrate everything. In the above example, since neither expression is really any harder or easier to integrate, I might refer to the LIATE strategy to pick my subs. But it is good to be mindful of your substitutions and think ahead to what will happen.

What would have happened if I'd let u=\sin(x) and dv=2x dx instead? I'd get a recursion that is not helpful: 2x becomes x^2, \sin(x) becomes -\cos(x) and I'm in no better position. Integrating by parts again, x^2 becomes x^3/3, and -\cos(x) becomes -\sin(x), which is again, not helpful.

So try to think ahead, and see if you'll need to integrate by parts multiple times. If so, let u=whatever is going to "ratchet down" to zero-power by repeated differentiation.

Hope this helps, cheers!
 
alright check this out. the essence of integration by parts is that you are simplifying the integral so you can actually do it. For example, you will encounter integration by parts a lot with e^x. Basically you don't want the derivative of e^x to be in your final integral , because it doesn't simplify it at all. if you have xe^x, you will want the derivative of x to be in the final integral, because then you can easily do the integral of 1 * e^x dx, which is e^x + C
 
My calc teacher taught us LIPET. Log, inverse trig, polynomial, exponential, trig. She says it always works and I've never found a problem where it doesn't. You pick u in the order of LIPET, and whatever remains is dv.
 
I was taught to perform integration by parts using ILATE(or LIATE, depending upon the question).
But as 2h2o rightly pointed out, you must always choose the terms you can easily integrate to be u.

Now consider the example 2xsinx. If you choose to integrate 2x, then you will get x^2. By doing so, you will be unnecessarily increasing the power of x, when you could have simply selected sinx as the integrand. Thus, you must always try NOT to complicate the given function by increasing its powers.

Hope it helps.
 
In an exam, if you forget and you really don't know what to do for some reason, just do both and one of them will be obviously worse. (the integration and differentiation of the "parts" is usually pretty easy anyway)
 
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In general, this is how I was introduced to integration by parts. The first thing you look for is a product in your integrand. If you have a product, and simple u substitution does not work, then integration by parts is a viable option. Here is the general method I follow:

∫udv=uv-∫vdu


Steps
1. Choose u and dv.
In general, you want to choose dv such that its antiderivative is simple (v).
Additionally, you need to choose u such that its derivative is fairly simple. The idea is that you want the resulting integral (∫vdu) to be easier to integrate than the original integral.
2. Find du (the derivative of u) and v (the antiderivative of dv). You now have all the terms you need in order to complete the above expression.



NOTE: the idea of integration by parts is that you want to end up with an easier integral to integrate. If you end up with a more complicated integral, then maybe you have chosen the wrong u and dv. Alternatively, perhaps integration by parts is not the best method for said question.

ex: ∫xexdx
1. u= x, dv=ex
2. du=dx (derivative of x is 1), v=ex (antiderivative of ex is ex)
3. Our new expression is:

I= ∫xexdx= xex-∫exdx

Note that our new integral is much simpler and we immediately know its solution.

our solution is then:
I= xex-ex+C

I Hope this Helps!
-Curtis
 
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Sometimes when it looks like IBP isn't "working", you might need to do a little trick. Look up the integral of cosine times exp.
 
  • #13
it is not integration by parts it is by substitution
for example,
integral of sin^3x / cosx dx=integral of( sinx)(sin^2(x) / cosx dx and then you set : t=cosx==>
dt=(cos(x))'dx=-sin(x)dx and sin^2(x)=1-cos^2(x)(since sin^2x+cos^2x=1 Pythag.identity)
Then the integral becomes:integral of-(1-t^2)/tdt=integralof(-1/t-t^2/t)dt(… divided the numerator by dinominator)=integral of(-1/t+t)dt=-lnt+t^2/2+c and then turn back to x and get:

-ln(cosx)+cos^2(x)/2+c .
 

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