Integration by Parts: Troubleshooting the Formula for x cos 5x dx

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function x cos(5x) with a focus on the application of the integration by parts formula. Participants are exploring the steps involved in this integration process and clarifying the components of the formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the integration by parts formula but expresses confusion regarding the integration of cos(5x) and the resulting factor of 1/5. Other participants discuss the derivative of sin(5x) and its relation to cos(5x) through the chain rule.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing clarifications on the derivation of the integral of cos(5x). There is an indication that the original poster is beginning to understand the concepts discussed, but no consensus or final resolution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions that they are working on a non-homework question to reinforce their understanding, indicating a desire to grasp the integration by parts technique more thoroughly.

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kay I am having difficulties with this..
Knowing the gerneral formuala of

|uv'=uv- |vu'

i using a nonehomework question i was trying to make sure i had it down pat was having problems..

| x cos 5x dx

but for some reason i don't get the right answer when it done...
If I have u=x, du=1
and
v'=cos 5x dx

v= 1/5 sin5x? or did i crew up some where I been having trouble here ..

so i can do the substion and all but this stuff is screwing with help please.
 
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[tex]\int x\cos 5x = \frac{x}{5}\sin 5x - \frac{1}{5}\int \sin 5x dx[/tex].

[tex]\int x\cos 5x = \frac{x}{5}\sin 5x +\frac{1}{25}\cos 5x[/tex]

So [tex]\int udv = uv-\int vdu[/tex].

[tex]\int \sin 5x = -\frac{\cos 5x}{5}[/tex].
 
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kay my major problem is that 1/5 where does it come from.

how does cos 5x dx = 1/5 sin 5x..
 
when you take the derivative of 1/5 sin 5x, you get cos 5x by doing the chain rule...you have to take the derivative of the argument because it is more complex than just an x
 
t6hanks Maps Think i undersand it now... hopefully the homework will be easier now
 

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