Integration by substitution for dy/dx=(x+2y)/(3y-2x)

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The discussion focuses on solving the differential equation dy/dx=(x+2y)/(3y-2x) using integration by substitution. Two methods are explored: one involves factoring out a negative sign, resulting in the equation x(dv/dx) = -((3v^2-4v-1)/(3v-2)), while the other retains the original sign. Both methods yield different forms of the solution, specifically 3y^2-4yx-x^2=C and x^2+4xy-3y^2=C, yet they represent the same solution set. The conclusion emphasizes that the sign does not affect the overall solution, as both forms are equivalent.

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Original problem is differential equation dy/dx=(x+2y)/(3y-2x)
This is part of solving differential equation.

x(dv/dx) = (1+4v-3v^2)/(3v-2)

so one way of solving, I take out the negative sign

x(dv/dx) = -((3v^2-4v-1)/(3v-2)) , separate and bring over
-∫((3v-2)/(3v^2-4v-1)) dv = ∫1/x dx

which gets me
-(1/2)ln(3v^2-4v-1)=ln(x)+C

however, if i don't take out negative sign,
x(dv/dx) = (1+4v-3v^2)/(3v-2), separate and bring over
∫((3v-2)/(1+4v-3v^2)) = ∫1/x dx

which gets me
-(1/2)ln(-3v^2+4v+1)=ln(x)+C result is opposite sign from above.

checked again and again and i can't seem to find out why even though the working seems ok, the answer is very different...

i get 3y^2-4yx-x^2=C for one method
and x^2+4xy-3y^2=C for the other method
 
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It doesn't make any difference whether you take the sign out or not. Eg. 3y^2-4yx-x^2=1 is the same solution as x^2+4xy-3y^2=(-1).
 

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