Integration by substitution - I'm stuck

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function ∫(1-sin2θ)cosθ dθ using substitution methods. Participants are exploring integration techniques and the challenges faced in applying them correctly.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of integration by substitution and integration by parts, questioning the correct approach to take. There are attempts to clarify the setup and the differentiation of terms involved in the integration process.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the substitution method, suggesting a different approach to the problem. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the integration steps, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to apply.

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Participants are grappling with the integration process and the application of different techniques, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the problem setup or the integration rules. There is also a reference to the original poster's struggle with the integration by substitution method.

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Homework Statement



I'm trying to do an integration by substitution, but I'm completely stuck at the moment

∫(1-sin2θ)cosθ dθ

Homework Equations



∫u dv = uv - ∫v du

The Attempt at a Solution



u = 1 - sin2θ
dv = cosθ dθ

du = -2sinθcosθ or -sin(2θ)
v = sin

I found du as the derivative of (1 - sin2)
= 0 - 2(sin)(cos) = -2sinθcosθ

Now when I insert I get

(1 - sin2θ)(sinθ) - ∫(sinθ)(-2sinθcosθ)
sinθ-sin3θ - ∫-2 sin2θcosθ
sinθ-sin3θ - (-2) ∫sin2θcosθ
sinθ-sin3θ - (-2) ∫(1-cos2θ)cosθ
sinθ-sin3θ - (-2) ∫cosθ-cos3θ

I think I'm on the wrong track here.
Where did I go wrong? - any help is much appreciated.

Thanks
 
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I know the answer is

(sinθ - \frac{sin^3}{3}) + C

and I can see how to differentiate this

cosθ - \frac{3}{3}sin^2θcosθ
= (1- sin^2θ)cosθ

But I can't see what I'm doing wrong when trying to go the opposite direction
 
Substitution or integration by parts ??

\int (1-\sin^2 x) \cos x ~ dx = \int (1-\sin^2 x) ~ d(\sin x) = ...

Do you see the substitution ?
 
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jkristia said:
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Homework Statement



I'm trying to do an integration by substitution, but I'm completely stuck at the moment

∫(1-sin2θ)cosθ dθ

Homework Equations



∫u dv = uv - ∫v du

You tried to do integration by parts, instead of substitution. Substitute u=sinθ.

ehild
 
>>Substitute u=sinθ.

Ah yes of course.

∫(1 - u2) du

u - u3/3 + C

Thank you very much.
 

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