Integral problem: 1/((x^2)(sqrt(4-x^2)))

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral ∫ dx/ (x²√(4-x²)), focusing on trigonometric substitution methods. Participants are exploring the steps involved in simplifying the integral and addressing potential errors in their approaches.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric substitution, specifically x=2sinθ, and the subsequent steps taken to simplify the integral. There are questions about the correctness of the transformations and substitutions made during the process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the integral of csc²(θ) and suggested revisiting earlier steps in the substitution process. There is an acknowledgment of missed opportunities in the substitution approach, but no consensus on a definitive solution has been reached.

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Participants express frustration with their understanding of trigonometric substitutions and the derivation of equations, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge related to this type of problem.

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Homework Statement



∫ dx/ x2 (√4-x2)

Homework Equations


x=2sinθ
dx=2cosθdx
sin2 θ= (1 + cos (2θ))/2

The Attempt at a Solution


First attempt:
Plug in the trig sub and get:

∫2cosθdθ/4sin2θ2cosθ
The two cos θ cancel leaving

∫ dθ/ (4sin2θ)

Now I replace the sin2θ with (1-cos2θ)/2
and get

1/2 ∫dθ/(1-cos2θ)

I use u sub with the cos2θ
u=2θ
du/2=dθ

∫cosudu= sin2θ/2

I plug it back into the original equation

1/2 [ 2/θ-sin2θ]= 1/(θ-2sinθcosθ)

I retrieve the x from the original equation to get

4/ arcsin(x/2) -(x)(√(4-x2))

I may be doing something completely wrong, but I can't figure out where. Any hint on where to find the mistake? I keep practicing trig sub problems and I can not get any right. It might have to do with the derivation of the equations, but I am not sure.
 
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Palmira said:

Homework Statement



∫ dx/ x2 (√4-x2)

Homework Equations


x=2sinθ
dx=2cosθdx
sin2 θ= (1 + cos (2θ))/2

The Attempt at a Solution


First attempt:
Plug in the trig sub and get:

∫2cosθdθ/4sin2θ2cosθ
The two cos θ cancel leaving

∫ dθ/ (4sin2θ)

Now I replace the sin2θ with (1-cos2θ)/2
and get

1/2 ∫dθ/(1-cos2θ)

I use u sub with the cos2θ
u=2θ
du/2=dθ

∫cosudu= sin2θ/2

I plug it back into the original equation

1/2 [ 2/θ-sin2θ]= 1/(θ-2sinθcosθ)

I retrieve the x from the original equation to get

4/ arcsin(x/2) -(x)(√(4-x2))

I may be doing something completely wrong, but I can't figure out where. Any hint on where to find the mistake? I keep practicing trig sub problems and I can not get any right. It might have to do with the derivation of the equations, but I am not sure.

When you say "I use u sub with the cos2θ" things start going badly wrong. I'm not even sure what you are doing after that. I would go back to when you have 1/(4sin^2(θ)). That's the same as csc^2(θ)/4. There's an easy integral for csc^2(θ).
 
Well I do not feel very smart.

∫csc2xdx/ 4= -cot x/4 +c

go back to the triangle and it is -(√4-x2/ 4x) +c

Thank-you so much!
 
Palmira said:
Well I do not feel very smart.

∫csc2xdx/ 4= -cot x/4 +c

go back to the triangle and it is -(√4-x2/ 4x) +c

Thank-you so much!

You're welcome and well done. You started ok. You just missed where to get off the substitution train.
 

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