Why Does Trig Substitution Yield Different Integral Results?

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The discussion revolves around the integral ∫8cos^3(2θ)sin(2θ)dθ, focusing on the differences in results obtained through various substitution methods in trigonometric integrals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss rewriting the integral using different substitutions, particularly u = sin(2θ) and u = cos(2θ). There is an exploration of the resulting expressions and the validity of these approaches.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed their results through differentiation, while others suggest alternative substitution methods that may lead to the book's answer. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches without a clear consensus on the best method.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of checking answers by differentiation as a standard practice, indicating a focus on verifying results rather than resolving the integral itself.

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Homework Statement



∫8cos^3(2θ)sin(2θ)dθ

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


rewrote the integral as:
8∫(1-sin^2(2θ))sin(2θ)cos(2θ)dθ
u substitution with u=sin(2θ) du=2cos(2θ)dθ
4∫(1-u^2)u du= 4∫u-u^3 du
4(u^2/2-u^4/4)+C
undo substitution and simplify
2sin^2(2θ)-sin^4(2θ)+C
The book gives an answer of:
-cos^4(2θ)+C
 
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Jrlinton said:

Homework Statement



∫8cos^3(2θ)sin(2θ)dθ

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


rewrote the integral as:
8∫(1-sin^2(2θ))sin(2θ)cos(2θ)dθ
u substitution with u=sin(2θ) du=2cos(2θ)dθ
4∫(1-u^2)u du= 4∫u-u^3 du
4(u^2/2-u^4/4)+C
undo substitution and simplify
2sin^2(2θ)-sin^4(2θ)+C
The book gives an answer of:
-cos^4(2θ)+C

Check your answer by differentiating it to see if you get back to ##8 \cos^3 (2 \theta) \sin (2 \theta)##. Checking your answer by differentiation is something you should always do, every time.
 
I do in fact get my original expression. Thanks.
 
Jrlinton said:

Homework Statement



∫8cos^3(2θ)sin(2θ)dθ

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


rewrote the integral as:
8∫(1-sin^2(2θ))sin(2θ)cos(2θ)dθ
u substitution with u=sin(2θ) du=2cos(2θ)dθ
There's no need to rewrite the integral. In the original integral, use ordinary substitution with ##u = \cos(2\theta)##, and ##du = -2\sin(2\theta)d\theta##. Using this substitution leads directly to the book's answer.
Jrlinton said:
4∫(1-u^2)u du= 4∫u-u^3 du
4(u^2/2-u^4/4)+C
undo substitution and simplify
2sin^2(2θ)-sin^4(2θ)+C
The book gives an answer of:
-cos^4(2θ)+C
I second Ray's advice to always check your answer by differentiation.
 

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