Integration: Convergence/Divergence Tests

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of an improper integral, specifically the integral of dx/(sqrt(x+x^3)) from 0 to infinity. Participants are exploring various tests that can be applied without needing to solve the integral directly.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using comparison tests and the potential need to split the integral into two parts. There are attempts to compare the original integral to simpler forms, such as 1/sqrt(x^3) and 1/sqrt(x^2), to assess convergence. Questions arise regarding the implications of evaluating these comparisons, particularly when approaching infinity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on comparison tests and integral properties. Some have expressed uncertainty about their approaches and are seeking clarification on how to effectively split the integral for analysis.

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There is a mention of using specific numerical methods, such as the trapezoidal rule or Simpson's rule, to approximate the integral, although this may not align with the original intent of proving convergence or divergence without solving the integral.

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Does anyone know of helpful tests that can help me determine whether an improper integral converges or diverges? Specifically ones where you don't have to solve the integral?

For example, the problem I'm solving has a very complicated solution to the integral:

the problem: integrate dx/(sqrt(x+x^3)) from 0 to [tex]\infty[/tex].

I have tried integrating, and ended up using Maple, only to get a very complicated answer.

But I only need to prove whether it converges or diverges. That's it.

Any ideas?
 
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how about an integral comparison test, you'll probably nee dto split it into two integrals though...
 
I've started doing a comparison test, but I got a little stuck. I need to play around with it more.

I noted that 1/sqrt(x^3+x) is < 1/sqrt(x^3) = x^(-3/2).

If the integral x^(-3/2) converges, then so does the original problem. However, I ran into a little snag:
The integral of x^(-3/2) is 1/sqrt(x), and evaluating the integral from 0 to b (where b is approaching infinity) yields:

1/sqrt(b)-1/sqrt(0), I have a fraction of form 1/0. So...




Then I considered 1/sqrt(x^3+x) < 1/sqrt(x^2) , but ran into a similar snag.



What do you mean by splitting it into two integrals?
 
i meant use the property of integrals
[tex]\int_a^b dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3+x}} = \int_a^c dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3+x}} + \int_c^b dx \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^3+x}}[/tex]

then if you pick c correctly, your approach should work for the 2nd part, but you'll have to think about the 1st... maybe consider a variable change
 
Ah. I see. Thank you. I'll work on that.
 
Whether an integral is convergent or divergent can be determined by a no. of ways. For example you can apply the trapezoidal rule or the Simpsons rule to approximate a definite integral.
 

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