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The discussion revolves around solving two integral problems presented as part of a homework assignment. Participants explore methods for integration, including potential substitutions and techniques, while addressing the urgency of the assignment's deadline.

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  • One participant asks for help with the integrals, specifically questioning whether to use partial fractions for the first integral.
  • Another participant raises a concern about the assignment being graded, referencing academic honesty policies.
  • A suggestion is made to complete the square on the quadratic in the first integral's denominator and to consider a trigonometric substitution.
  • Further, a participant proposes a substitution involving arctangent for the second integral, providing limits for the substitution.
  • Another participant introduces a general formula for integrating expressions of the form $\int \frac{dx}{(a + b x + c x^2)^{n}}$, detailing specific cases based on the discriminant.
  • There is a discussion about the equivalence of two forms of an integral, with participants noting that they differ only by a constant, which is acceptable in indefinite integrals.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of providing help for graded assignments, and there is no consensus on the best approach to solving the integrals, as various methods and substitutions are proposed.

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Some participants note the importance of academic honesty and the implications of helping with graded work. There are also unresolved details regarding the application of specific integration techniques and the conditions under which they apply.

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please help! this homework assignment is due in like 3 hours and i have to get it done.

$$\int \frac{1 \, dx}{(x^2+8x+17)^{2}}$$

$$\int_{-1/ \sqrt{3}}^{1/ \sqrt{3}} \frac{e^{arctan {y}} \, dy}{(1+y^2)}$$

i need to see all the steps.

do i use partial fractions for the first one?
 
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Is this assignment for a grade?
 
Yeah. It was already due tho
 
ineedhelpnow said:
Yeah. It was already due tho

The reason Ackbach asked if these problems are part of a graded assignment is that it is against our policy to knowingly help with problems that contribute to a student's final grade, in the interest of academic honesty.

But, since the deadline has passed, let's look at these problems so you can solve them for your own knowledge.

For the first problem, I suggest completing the square on the quadratic being squared in the denominator of the integrand, and then making an appropriate trigonometric substitution. What form do you get?
 
ineedhelpnow said:
please help! this homework assignment is due in like 3 hours and i have to get it done.

$$\int \frac{1 \, dx}{(x^2+8x+17)^{2}}$$

$$\int_{-1/ \sqrt{3}}^{1/ \sqrt{3}} \frac{e^{arctan {y}} \, dy}{(1+y^2)}$$

i need to see all the steps.

do i use partial fractions for the first one?

In the second, you should know that $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}x} \left[ \arctan{(x)} \right] = \frac{1}{1 + x^2} \end{align*}$, so a substitution of the form $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u = \arctan{(y)} \implies \mathrm{d}u = \frac{1}{1 + y^2} \, \mathrm{d}y \end{align*}$ is appropriate. Also note that $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u \left( -\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \right) = -\frac{\pi}{6} \end{align*}$ and $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u \left( \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \right) = \frac{\pi}{6} \end{align*}$ and the integral becomes

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int_{-\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}}^{\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}}{\frac{\mathrm{e}^{\arctan{(y)}}}{1 + y^2}\,\mathrm{d}y} = \int_{-\frac{\pi}{3}}^{\frac{\pi}{3}}{\mathrm{e}^u\,\mathrm{d}u} \end{align*}$

The rest should be easy...
 
ineedhelpnow said:
please help! this homework assignment is due in like 3 hours and i have to get it done.

$$\int \frac{dx}{(x^2+8x+17)^{2}}$$

i need to see all the steps.

do i use partial fractions?...

The integral isn't trivial and the best way is to learn a general way to solve integrals of the type...

$\displaystyle \int \frac{d x}{(a + b\ x + c\ x^{2})^{n}}\ (1)$

If we write $\displaystyle R= a + b\ x + c\ x^{2}$ and $\displaystyle \Delta = 4\ a\ c - b^{2}$, integrating by parts we arrive at the useful formula...

$\displaystyle \int \frac{d x}{R^{n+1}} = \frac{b + 2\ c\ x}{n\ \Delta\ R^{n}} + \frac{(4\ n -2)\ c}{n\ \Delta}\ \int \frac{d x}{R^{n}},\ n>0 \ (2)$

... and then for n=1 is...

$\displaystyle \int \frac{d x}{R} = \frac{-2}{\sqrt{- \Delta}}\ \tanh^{-1} \frac{b + 2\ c\ x}{\sqrt{-\Delta}}\ \text{if}\ \Delta<0$

$\displaystyle = - \frac{2}{b + 2\ c\ x}\ \text{if}\ \Delta=0$

$\displaystyle = \frac{2}{\sqrt{\Delta}}\ \tan^{-1} \frac{b + 2\ c\ x}{\sqrt{\Delta}}\ \text{if}\ \Delta>0\ (3)$

Kind regards

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isnt $\int \ \frac{4}{6u+4}du=\frac{2}{3}\ln\left({6u+4}\right)$

my calculator keeps giving me $\int \ \frac{4}{6u+4}du=\frac{2}{3}\ln\left({3u+2}\right)$
 
ineedhelpnow said:
isnt $\int \ \frac{4}{6u+4}du=\frac{2}{3}\ln\left({6u+4}\right)$

my calculator keeps giving me $\int \ \frac{4}{6u+4}du=\frac{2}{3}\ln\left({3u+2}\right)$

Well actually $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \frac{4}{6u+4}\,\mathrm{d}u} = \frac{2}{3} \ln{ \left| 6u + 4 \right| } + C \end{align*}$.

Now notice that

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \ln{ \left| 6u + 4 \right| } &= \ln{ \left( 2 \left| 3u + 2 \right| \right) } \\ &= \ln{(2)}+ \ln{ \left| 3u + 2 \right| } \end{align*}$

So the two answers only vary by a constant, and since the integration constant is arbitrary anyway, that means that the two answers are equivalent AS LONG AS YOU WRITE + C AT THE END!
 
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